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14 April 2005, on 11:40 am
That’s because their fairy tale is EVIL and WRONG but our fairy tale is GOOD and NICE, so it can’t possibly have exactly the same effect on people.
14 April 2005, on 3:37 pm
You don’t seem to have trackback enabled, so I thought I’d let you know that I referenced this post at http://www.atheistrevolution.blogspot.com/
16 April 2005, on 4:09 am
[...] dy Springs, Georgia in 1997 and one in Birmingham the following year.” I agree with God is for Suckers: How many hits would “Islam [...]
16 April 2005, on 8:49 am
This guy is just another martyr of the extremist religious right, and the only thing that we can look is another fool like this to take his place. ie; The Minuteman Project its a breeding ground for the next Wack Job holy-roller terrorist.
16 April 2005, on 10:47 am
The difference is this: Islam doctrine TEACHES killing non-muslims. Christian doctrine TEACHES peace and love toward enemies. Are there Christians who commit violent acts “on God’s behalf.” Sure, but they do it on their own, NOT based on the teaching of the Bible. Muslims who commit acts of violence “on God’s behalf” do it because their book COMMANDS them to do it. There is the difference.
16 April 2005, on 12:35 pm
See Kevin, your satire wasn’t needed; Frank did it all by himself, and he MEANS it.
Because, you know, the Xian bible NEVER says people should be killed.
Or, hardly ever.
Or, when it does, it’s for really bad stuff. Like, you know, blasphemy (”And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him.” Leviticus 24:16).
16 April 2005, on 2:00 pm
John — It constantly amazes me that “enlightened” individuals (such as yourself) fail to recognize the distinction between the teachings of Bible and the Quran. It also amazes me that “enlightened” individuals (such as yourself), when trying to expose some perceived contradiction within the Bible, expose instead their gross ignorance of even the most basic principles of hermeneutics.
Oh, sorry, “hermeneutics” means proper methods of biblical study and interpretation. But, hey, it’s really not fair for me to expect you to understand how to read the Bible, let alone understand it in it’s proper context, ’cause you don’t believe it and probably never “waste your time” with it.
Seriously, if you want to criticize Scripture then, at the very least, learn how to properly read it. Just throwing around verses you think prove your point only serves to expose your ignorance of the book you ridicule.
16 April 2005, on 2:16 pm
Apparently you think “hermeneutic” analysis shows that even though the bible says explicit that people should be killed for blasphemy, it doesn’t really advocate killing people at all.
This is what I call “trying to squirm by using big words”, or “Frank getting caught in a stupid and obvious contradiction and trying to act like a big snotty intellectual to get out of it”.
(Wait, are you sure hermeneutics doesn’t have anything to do with The Munsters?)
16 April 2005, on 2:24 pm
Hermeneutics: The art of trying to make the stupidity, evil, and contradictions that are expicit in the bible seem like they really aren’t. Practiced widely by pseudo-intellectual Christian apologists. Named for a character on The Munsters who always saw only the good in people and things. See obfuscation, religious sophistry.
16 April 2005, on 5:40 pm
Actually, Frank, while Biblical interpretation is included in the definition of hermeneutics, that is not the entire definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics
“Hermeneutics (Hermeneutic means interpretive), is a branch of philosophy concerned with human understanding and the interpretation of texts. Recently the concept of texts has been extended beyond written documents to include, for example, speech, performances, works of art, and even events.
The word hermeneutics has two derivations. One is from the Greek god Hermes in his role as patron of interpretive communication and human understanding, while the other is from the syncretic Ptolemaic deity Hermes Trismegistus, in his role as representing hidden or secret knowledge.”
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hermeneutics
“The theory and methodology of interpretation, especially of scriptural text.”
16 April 2005, on 7:29 pm
Kimberly is of course right about the meaning of “hermeneutic/s”. But it’s also true that theological “scholars” have laid a special claim to the word, and treated “hermeneutics” as if it were a specifically theological activity. (WordWeb defines this use of the word as “The branch of theology that deals with principles of exegesis”.) In this form, the “interpretation” is very unlike the kind you’d get from, say, Heideggerian “existential hermeneutics”, where the point is just to try to get some kind of genuine and direct understanding of the being-in-the-world of the author(s). Rather, the goal of religious “hermeneutics” is to RE-interpret scripture to try to iron out the grotesqueness of passages like, for example, those that would seem to explicitly condemn blashphemers to death. And in this form, it really is just a tool of religious apologetics.
Aw, fuck, that sounds way too much like some namby-pamby college boy in a black turtleneck. Maybe I should go back to being “grossly ignorant”.
No, wait, then I’d probably believe in invisible daddy. Never mind.
22 April 2005, on 1:44 pm
Notice Frank never actually quotes the Quran to support his position.
Nor does Frank actually refute the claims about Biblical injunctions to kill.
Franks simply calls people names, claims superior vocabulary & generally blusters about anything except the actual post.
23 April 2005, on 4:24 pm
DamnRight — I don’t quote the Quran to support my postion because my position is based on the Bible… duh! And I’ve contextualized the biblical “injunctions to kill” time and time again only to have my argument dismissed without being considered. And I generally politely discuss differences of opinion until I am condescended to, at which point I may or may not respond in kind. But I don’t make a habit of calling people names. Go back on this website and check the archives. I’m typically quite polite.
25 April 2005, on 2:42 pm
Seriously, if you want to criticize Scripture then, at the very least, learn how to properly read it.
That’s right Frank. FIRST you need to believe the lies. THEN you can read them for yourself.
That is the lamest misuse of a sound argument I’ve ever heard bro. I mean it and I bet that you know it as well.
25 April 2005, on 8:56 pm
MBains — I didn’t say the proper way to read the Bible was to believe it first. There are a number of biblical scholars out there who are not Christians and yet study the Bible and it’s history. They apply the proper contexts for their study and understand the proper way to read and understand ancient writings. They don’t try to apply contemporary understandings of the use of language to people who wrote 2,000 years ago. They know better. I think you do to … it’s just easier and more fun to poke fun at 2,000 year old documents using today’s trite sayings.
27 April 2005, on 4:56 am
Yeah, MBains; it’s so unfair to read “X should be killed for Y” as “X should be killed for Y”. “Scholars” and “Theologans” know that if the Bible says something bad, it must just be that we interpreted it incorrectly.
Homework: Apply hermeneutic techniques to Mein Kampf, reinterpreting it as a work of compassion.
18 July 2005, on 12:43 pm
[...] Convicted Christian terrorist and serial murder Eric Rudolph was sentenced to life today (Rudolph Victims Tell of Pain at Sentencing). Of course, as I’ve mentioned before (Christian terrorist Rudolph enters guilty plea), almost nobody is willing to call him that. Because, you know, Christians aren’t really terrorists, but more like soldiers of conscience — right? [...]
30 December 2007, on 10:14 pm
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