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		<title>By: Reg Le Sueur</title>
		<link>http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/03/30/holding-them-accountable/#comment-122112</link>
		<dc:creator>Reg Le Sueur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the above mentioned "Le Sueur", I claim (like so many Christians), that I have been misunderstood. What I think I meant to say was that lurid fiction may (sometimes) be more entertaining than boring old facts,--but,- is that all that religion is for,-to be entertaining?  A pantomime, a piece of theatre, -no matter whether it is true or not?
I think I will stick with boring old rational atheism and humanism, and leave Christianity to the happy-clappies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the above mentioned &#8220;Le Sueur&#8221;, I claim (like so many Christians), that I have been misunderstood. What I think I meant to say was that lurid fiction may (sometimes) be more entertaining than boring old facts,&#8211;but,- is that all that religion is for,-to be entertaining?  A pantomime, a piece of theatre, -no matter whether it is true or not?<br />
I think I will stick with boring old rational atheism and humanism, and leave Christianity to the happy-clappies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/03/30/holding-them-accountable/#comment-10550</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that kind of excitement is like the Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that kind of excitement is like the Chinese curse: &#8220;May you live in interesting times.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/03/30/holding-them-accountable/#comment-10548</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sportin' Life: One thing that annoys the hell out of me about McGrath’s argument is the overwhleming prevalence of these content-free, value-laden adjectives: “colorless, unexciting, wishy-washy, derivative, tedious, catatonic, uninteresting, etc.” Repeated over and over and over again hypnotically.

Exactly, making him, the theist, the one who's colorless, unexciting, wishy-washy, derivative, tedious, catatonic, and uninteresting.

Although xianity for example is quite exciting: the persecution of heretics, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, intolerance, bigotry - oh yeah, it's exciting all right.  But it's a type of excitement I for one could do without.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sportin&#8217; Life: One thing that annoys the hell out of me about McGrath’s argument is the overwhleming prevalence of these content-free, value-laden adjectives: “colorless, unexciting, wishy-washy, derivative, tedious, catatonic, uninteresting, etc.” Repeated over and over and over again hypnotically.</p>
<p>Exactly, making him, the theist, the one who&#8217;s colorless, unexciting, wishy-washy, derivative, tedious, catatonic, and uninteresting.</p>
<p>Although xianity for example is quite exciting: the persecution of heretics, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, intolerance, bigotry - oh yeah, it&#8217;s exciting all right.  But it&#8217;s a type of excitement I for one could do without.</p>
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		<title>By: Lya Kahlo</title>
		<link>http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/03/30/holding-them-accountable/#comment-10498</link>
		<dc:creator>Lya Kahlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Do not answer Saved."

I already did answer that question on another thread. I see no point in answering it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do not answer Saved.&#8221;</p>
<p>I already did answer that question on another thread. I see no point in answering it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the source of this at Wittingshire and was interested to note that comments are not enabled.  In typical 'imaginary friend' style dissent is not allowed, somebody might say something that might undermine their precious and, apparently, precarious beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the source of this at Wittingshire and was interested to note that comments are not enabled.  In typical &#8216;imaginary friend&#8217; style dissent is not allowed, somebody might say something that might undermine their precious and, apparently, precarious beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/03/30/holding-them-accountable/#comment-10472</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eve: Excellent.  All I can say is "bravo."

Ford said: &lt;i&gt;Hey, where is that one nice semi-theist person that used to comment here? I think it was Dena? Something like that? I can’t remember, but has she been around lately or has she ceased to comment?&lt;/i&gt;

Dena May, yes.  She had to take care of some shit in her personal life, so she hasn't been around these days:

http://denammay.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eve: Excellent.  All I can say is &#8220;bravo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ford said: <i>Hey, where is that one nice semi-theist person that used to comment here? I think it was Dena? Something like that? I can’t remember, but has she been around lately or has she ceased to comment?</i></p>
<p>Dena May, yes.  She had to take care of some shit in her personal life, so she hasn&#8217;t been around these days:</p>
<p><a href="http://denammay.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://denammay.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sportin' Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sportin' Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...a fear, often merited, of what might happen if religious maniacs were to take over the world.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, for me it's more of an unhappiness with the fact that religious maniacs have ALREADY taken over the world.

One thing that annoys the hell out of me about McGrath's argument is the overwhleming prevalence of these content-free, value-laden adjectives: "colorless, unexciting, wishy-washy, derivative, tedious, catatonic, uninteresting, etc."  Repeated over and over and over again hypnotically.  It's a dishonest argumentative style designed for emotional, rather than logical, appeal.

As far as theistic posts go, though, this one is pretty top notch.  I definitely do believe that we godless folks will have far more influence indirectly, through our critiques of religion, than we will actually "converting" people.  (That certainly doesn't make it any less important for us to keep speaking out.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;a fear, often merited, of what might happen if religious maniacs were to take over the world.</i></p>
<p>Actually, for me it&#8217;s more of an unhappiness with the fact that religious maniacs have ALREADY taken over the world.</p>
<p>One thing that annoys the hell out of me about McGrath&#8217;s argument is the overwhleming prevalence of these content-free, value-laden adjectives: &#8220;colorless, unexciting, wishy-washy, derivative, tedious, catatonic, uninteresting, etc.&#8221;  Repeated over and over and over again hypnotically.  It&#8217;s a dishonest argumentative style designed for emotional, rather than logical, appeal.</p>
<p>As far as theistic posts go, though, this one is pretty top notch.  I definitely do believe that we godless folks will have far more influence indirectly, through our critiques of religion, than we will actually &#8220;converting&#8221; people.  (That certainly doesn&#8217;t make it any less important for us to keep speaking out.)</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;****Attention GiFSers****&lt;/b&gt;

Do not answer Saved. Saved is a sock puppet as is Sanctified for our old xian moron, Rolie Acot.

&lt;b&gt;Again, do not answer Saved- appropriate moderaters will remove the cut/paste posts.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>****Attention GiFSers****</b></p>
<p>Do not answer Saved. Saved is a sock puppet as is Sanctified for our old xian moron, Rolie Acot.</p>
<p><b>Again, do not answer Saved- appropriate moderaters will remove the cut/paste posts.</b></p>
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