Not Just Seeing Dead People…

18 May 2006 by Eve

Chaos before CreationJust so that our dear little xian lurkers don’t forget that they’re not the only targets we aim at, I thought I’d post a short piece on another species of whackadoo altogether: the New Age mystic!

From http://www.healingmysteries.com/, here are some comments about and quotes from a book by a woman who claims to not only remember her “past lives,” but also communicate with – well – dead people, to put it bluntly. And they’re dead people who can teach us how to – get ready for it – heal ourselves without having to depend upon those nasty, unscrupulous, murdering medical doctors.

“This book [Chaos before Creation] reveals ancient secrets for discovering total health and happiness now.”

Which apparently didn’t work in ancient times, since our ancestors’ life spans were so much shorter than ours and they fell victim to so many more diseases and much more daily violence. Oh, well, maybe these secrets will work this time…

“The text will expand your understanding of the universe and help you BELIEVE in limitless possibilities.”

As opposed to waiting for PROOF first…

“Chaos before Creation is the rarest of books.”

But you can own it – for the low low price of $25.00!

“It transcends the limits of the mundane world to bring you wisdom from towering personalities of other times, as revealed to you by Carolyn Evers.

The contributors of this wisdom include Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, Mother Theresa, Kwan Yin, Fred Astaire, and Marilyn Monroe – to name just a few.”

Wait a minute – Fred Astaire and Marilyn Monroe, purveyors of transcendental wisdom?

“The author, Carolyn Evers, remembers many of her own past lifetimes, including a life as Julia, daughter of Julius Caesar. “Communicating across the veil is a skill I have used in many lifetimes,” says Ms. Evers. In this lifetime, her mission is to work with advanced souls on the other side to bring forth their wisdom in book form to help humanity navigate the upheavals and changes of our time.”

And all for the low low price of $25.00 per volume!

“Hospitals are full of people who need spiritual healing but they have relied solely on medical means.”

Are these the same people who are not getting better when others pray for them?

“I would like to suggest that the basis for most illness is spiritual. What I mean by that is that the underlying causes stem from current emotional triggers or past life emotional triggers.”

Ah, yes, folks, you’re making yourselves sick by feeling bad.

“Fear and guilt play a very great part in the physical health of the body. If the negative qualities of fear and guilt are not purged from the body, it can cause one to suffer from problems of circulation namely heart, lungs and blood.”
Chapter 1 - Julius Caesar

Apparently Caesar has become an expert in psychosomatic illness since his demise.

“My friends consume less than you earn.”
Chapter 2 – Julius Caesar

Could it be because they, like you, are DEAD?

“DNA is changing from the carbon based body to the crystalline structures in the body. This is not something that the AMA is going to understand and no physician will even contemplate such a thought, but for now in this point of time and place, this [is] the number one factor involved in bodily distress that has not become a chronic condition.”

I included this quote for the scientists, amateur and otherwise, in our midst. Figure out what she’s saying, I dare ya!

Oh, and if you’re still wondering, Fred Astaire’s contribution in the book is “Healthier Bodies – Longer Lives” and Marilyn Monroe’s is “How Do You Love Yourself?”

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24 comments to “Not Just Seeing Dead People…”

  1. stardust1954:

    And they’re dead people who can teach us how to – get ready for it – heal ourselves without having to depend upon those nasty, unscrupulous, murdering medical doctors.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This is too much!

  2. Eve:

    Happy to please, Star, happy to please…

  3. bigdumbchimp:

    h, yes, folks, you’re making yourselves sick by feeling bad.

    Am I making myself feel drunk because…..Well shit Why am I drunk?

  4. jimmer:

    This is right up there with the other channelers. The wildest one I know of has been “Kryon”. The guy channels a 40,000 yr old Magnetic master who is in orbit in our solar system to adjust the magnetic field of earth. Kinda like the galactic engineer. And remember the asteroid that crashed into Jupiter? The magnetic master did that to prevent it from hitting earth. They also have some DNA strategies that say people have 12 strands of DNA and Blah BLah Blah.
    Where exactly do these people come from?

  5. Mike:

    Like Patton Oswalt says, “…every time you eat a steak, a hippie’s hacky-sack goes in the gutter,” which is why I’m a huge meat eater. Man I can’t stand those hippy “healer” asshats.

  6. stardust1954:

    This woman has “issues”…I read her bio on another website:

    Carolyn Evers is the author of Viva Papa and Chaos before Creation as well as several other important works to assist us in preparing and integrating the higher frequencies and bringing us planetary updates as the Spiritual Hierarchy release information to assist towards the path of ascension.

    She has been bringing us messages since her son died when he was 16 years old and they made a commitment before they came into this lifetime so that one would be here on the earth plane and one would be on the other side to pass on information between the two of them.

    I think she must have gone off the deep end after her son died and lost it.

    Most every belief in anything supernatural involves death or fear of death and a wish for eternal life and a wish to keep on communicating with loved ones and to stay connected to the world of the living.

  7. Sean:

    Which apparently didn’t work in ancient times, since our ancestors’ life spans were so much shorter than ours and they fell victim to so many more diseases and much more daily violence. Oh, well, maybe these secrets will work this time…

    Right on, Eve. I know far too many otherwise sharp critical thinkers here in San Francisco who have bought into things like Chinese herbal medicine because it is filled with “ancient” secrets! How fucking dumb can you be? I don’t want anything “ancient” at all when it comes to health care. Jeebus Fuckin’ Christ on a crutch, that is dumb no matter how you toss it.

  8. Sean:

    Marilyn Monroe died at 36 years old… We are supposed to take “healing” advice from her? Good point about her in the last line. She, sadly, didn’t love herself much. I guess she has been thinking about that a lot since 1962.

    “The author, Carolyn Evers, remembers many of her own past lifetimes, including a life as Julia, daughter of Julius Caesar.

    What do these people do if somebody else claims they were Julia? Could millions of people all have been Julia?

    I have a friend whose mind I respect in a bunch of other ways — yet she believes in past lives. Every time she opens her mouth about it I want to cry. She can sit and diss the ridiculousness of the bibble at length… then turn around and tell me she was murdered in a past life, all in the same breath. Sad.

  9. franky:

    She can sit and diss the ridiculousness of the bibble at length… then turn around and tell me she was murdered in a past life, all in the same breath. Sad.

    Yet another person who shows us that being an atheist doesn’t preclude one to an entirely rational world view.

  10. Audrey:

    Laugh at me if you must, but… I do believe in dead people. I know dead people. They are just like regular people, except they are dead. Most of the time, dead people don’t give a flippin’ fuck what living people are up to, except when living people bug their asses in the afterlife all the time trying to make a buck off of them. Dead people have great senses of humour — a little whacked maybe, but they are funny and always up for a good joke, which is why they tell the nosy-ass living people all kinds of whackadoo bullshit. It makes the living people look like idiots, and it’s like the equivalent of watching Candid Camera for the dead people.

  11. Eve:

    Star: I think she must have gone off the deep end after her son died and lost it.

    I’m afraid so, Star; she’s been writing these books pretty regularly since then, claiming to have a direct link to him and the “other side.” Who knows if she ever got therapy; she’s certainly making a nice buck when her books cost $25 each.

    Audrey, *lol*! Is that why Julius Caesar is telling this woman that fear and guilt cause heart disease?

  12. Nymphalidae:

    “Turn on your DNA and heal yourself!”

    This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. DNA doesn’t “turn off”. Our bodies are constantly transcribing DNA to RNA and translating RNA to proteins. Obviously not all our genes are active at the same time, but if this process stops all together, we die.

    “DNA is changing from the carbon based body to the crystalline structures in the body.”

    This is the second dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. I’m guessing what happened was that she heard that Rosalind Franklin discovered the structure of DNA through x-ray crystallography and her tiny brain translated that into “Oh shits! Our DNA is turning into crystals and we are all going to DIE!”

    It would be nice if our primary education system was good enough to give people the tools with which to combat this kind of bullshit.

  13. Nymphalidae:

    “I do believe in dead people.”

    I believe in dead people too. There are people whose cellular processes have stopped, thus they are dead. We put them in the ground, or burn them, or pickle them like Lenin. If dead people were just like living people, we would not bother with the categories “dead” and “alive”. Dead people do not talk or play tricks on anybody, as those are activities that require cellular processes to perform. Souls and the Turkey Farm enter into the realm of bullshittery, and are for suckers.

  14. Audrey:

    Audrey, *lol*! Is that why Julius Caesar is telling this woman that fear and guilt cause heart disease?

    Oh, you know, it’s probably not REALLY Julius Caesar. More than likely it’s Joe Schmoe from Kokamo having a good laugh on her. I knew Caesar way back when I was dead, and he’s such a stuck up snob (hyper-sensitive about the stab wounds, too). He doesn’t talk to anyone who’s been dead less than he has. Uppity bastard.

  15. Audrey:

    Nymphalidae, I don’t usually feel like I need to mark my snarky, obviously tongue-in-cheek posts as such, but in case I’m mis-reading your reply as taking me seriously… I like a good joke, too. Get it?

  16. Audrey:

    And now, in true seriousness (seriously)… I just read the article describing her son’s death. I feel very sad for this lady in that regard. As a mother, I simply cannot imagine the anguish of losing a child, and I honestly hope I never face what she did. I think she needed some professional help back then, and it is very sad that she didn’t get it. People who slide out of reality that far in the face of a tragedy can rarely be pulled back.

  17. Lya Kahlo:

    “The author, Carolyn Evers, remembers many of her own past lifetimes, including a life as Julia, daughter of Julius Caesar.”

    Ugh. these “past lives” people are never just poor farmers, or prostitutes, or criminals. They’re ALWAYS rich, famous, and historically signifigant in some way, even if only by associaton.

  18. Nymphalidae:

    Sorry - I’m new here :) Anyway, I don’t doubt there are nutjobs out there who believe that shit and would post things like that in all seriousness.

  19. Sean:

    Ugh. these “past lives” people are never just poor farmers, or prostitutes, or criminals. They’re ALWAYS rich, famous, and historically signifigant in some way, even if only by associaton.

    But of course, Mildred O’Brien who died of cholera cleaning toilets in the 1700s isn’t gonna sell books like Marilyn Monroe will.

  20. Eve:

    Sean: But of course, Mildred O’Brien who died of cholera cleaning toilets in the 1700s isn’t gonna sell books like Marilyn Monroe will.

    Which is what dilutes my sympathy for the woman’s loss somewhat; sure, it was an awful thing to have happen to you as a parent, but *must* you turn it into a business? It smacks of exploitation to me.

    And Sean, if you put in the link to the prayer post, thank you very much! I overlooked that.

    Nymphalidae, the “crystalline” thing puzzles me too; reviewer Russ Michael (apparently another New Age whackadoo) just blurbs that “you will not only hear the inside stories from [Caesar's] daughter Julia, mother and son Brutus, but will be given insights into current ultra high ‘Sun Spot Activity’ and how our elementary carbon based electron is transforming into crystalline structure in preparing all of us Lie Streams for the great shift to higher consciousness by the masses of humanity and other Kingdoms of Nature on Earth.”

    I think “Lie Streams” is supposed to be “Life Streams” - but who knows what’s what at this level of woo-woo-ness…

  21. Indigo Black:

    The one constant in life is that there are charlatans in every area of it. I’m not so quick to dismiss metaphysics and new age ideas like I do God and religion because I do actually think that some of it (metaphysics) is valid however there are some people, like this woman, who make the subject a joke to talk about.

    I would say to that this probably began as a coping mechanism for her but as the money rolled in it became a business. One thing I’ve learned in life is that for everything that someone is selling there is someone right there waiting to buy.

  22. Sean:

    Indigo: metaphysics is an extremely broad term. What she is doing is claiming supernatural powers, which is, of course, horseshit.

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  24. Not Mister A:

    Wait, someone who claims she was Julia in a past life–as in, the Julia who was married to Pompey the Great and died in childbirth–is saying modern medicine–which reduces maternal mortality by, I don’t know, a zillion times–is BAD??