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24 May 2006 by King Retard
Ignoring overwhleming evidence to the contrary, Wisconsin’s governor signed a bill into law making absitnence the focus of sex education in that state.
By RYAN J. FOLEY, Associated Press Writer
Tue May 23, 8:47 PM ET
MADISON, Wis. - Sex education teachers must present abstinence as the preferred behavior for unmarried people under a bill signed Tuesday by Gov. Jim Doyle.
The legislation means teachers must emphasize that refraining from sex before marriage is the most effective way to prevent pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. A spokesman for the governor, a Democrat, said most Wisconsin school districts already take that approach.
“The governor thinks that abstinence should be an important part of the message that kids hear from adults as part of their classes,” spokesman Dan Leistikow said.
Republican Sen. Mary Lazich, a bill’s sponsor, said sex education teachers can still teach about birth control, but must emphasize that abstinence is the only 100 percent effective method to avoid health risks.
Kelda Helen Roys, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin, called the bill, which takes effect July 1, shortsighted.
“They ignored the overwhelming public testimony, support and expert information about the importance of comprehensive sex education that talks about abstinence as well as contraceptive use,” she said. “Abstinence is an important part but it is not the only part.”
The birth rate among Wisconsin teens ages 15-19 decreased by 27 percent between 1993 and 2004, from 41 to 30 births per 1,000 females, according to the most recent government survey.
But the overall infection rate of the four top sexually transmitted diseases increased by 3 percent among teens during that time.
Hmmm, let’s see, things are steadily improving, so let’s shake things up by going to an educational method which has been shown not to work. Makes sense. We all know that when students aren’t taught about sex, they won’t have it.japanese movie adultjapanese free movies pornmovie death ladylatex moviemovie thumbs latinafree lesbian clips movielesbian movie sistersmovies lesbians xxx Map
24 May 2006, on 1:14 am
Wait, this isn’t an abstinence-only bill. The article clearly says that contraceptives can be taught alongside abstinence. At the end of the day, they’re not saying anything that is untrue. Abstinence is the best way not to get pregnant or infected with an STD. But, should the students chose not to be abstinent, other forms of birth control can be taught as well.
I’m not seeing the problem with this, other than it’s a little ridiculous that someone felt the need for a bill to be passed to promote abstinence.
24 May 2006, on 1:24 am
Julie:
But are they teaching comprehensive sex education in addition to talking about both abstinence and contraception? That’s my question.
24 May 2006, on 1:25 am
KR: Where the fuck did you get that picture — and who is it?
24 May 2006, on 1:29 am
Julie: I agree with what you say as far as abstinence being the most effective method of birth control, but the reason I brought this up is that when abstinence becomes the focus of sex ed, other, very important details are generally left out. Furthermore, moves like these are usually a backdoor way to get other pieces of religiously inspired legislation into the public education system. First, abstinence is the best way, then it becomes the ONLY way taught and students lose out on valuable info on birth control and STD prvention, because regardless of what teens learn in school, they’re going to fuck. Plain and simple.
24 May 2006, on 1:30 am
It would be lovely if they did. I certainly didn’t get a comprehensive sexual education, from my school or from my parents. I swear, when I finally get to sit my kids down for “The Talk”, it will outline everything from gender, to the hows, to contraception and not to be scared if an accident happens, because mommy will pay for the abortion.
24 May 2006, on 1:30 am
Sean: Good old google images. I have no idea who she is, except one way to express the spirit of Wisconsin.
24 May 2006, on 1:33 am
Oh, yes. Of course. It’s the cheeeeese.
(Gromit!)
24 May 2006, on 1:35 am
Julie said: “It would be lovely if they did. I certainly didn’t get a comprehensive sexual education, from my school or from my parents. I swear, when I finally get to sit my kids down for “The Talk”, it will outline everything from gender, to the hows, to contraception and not to be scared if an accident happens, because mommy will pay for the abortion.”
Good for you. My son and yet to be conceived children will get a similar talk, but what I didn’t touch on in my first response to you is that many children don’t get talks like that from their parents and if all they get is “don’t do it because it’s bad!!!” from the schools, they’ll never get it anywhere else.
24 May 2006, on 1:39 am
Oh yes, I agree. When abstinence becomes the focus of sex ed, it’s definitely a bad thing. Which is what I meant by my comment about feeling the need to pass a bill. But as long as they’re willing to also include education about contraceptives, I’m happy.
24 May 2006, on 3:26 am
Abstinence was taught by my parents as an indepth coverage of sex before I even started elementary school and sex was the topic of many dinner conversations as I was growing up. The schools I went during sex ed taught abstinence as an aside, a barely covered subject talked about in whispered tones. Passing a bill pushing abstinence seems redundant because any sex ed teacher and program worth a penny should include abstinence. If the main focus of sex is abstinence the people pushing it will only have themselves to blame for the rise in teen pregnancies and std transmission that will most likely follow in the years to come.
24 May 2006, on 9:08 am
Jesus this irritates the piss out of me.
Evolution? No, no, teach “the controversy”, teach “intelligent design” too, give them EQUAL TIME. Give kids all the information and let them make their own decisions.
Sex Ed? Good God, NO! DON’T give kids all the information and let them make their own decisions! Focus on abstinence! ABSTINENCE!!!
Damn… stuff like this makes me want to dope slap somebody.
24 May 2006, on 12:21 pm
I’m a tad too old to have had the benefit of a sex ed CLASS in school. I learned it the good old-fashioned way — behind the shop building during lunch.
Jokes aside though… as far as abstinence goes I think it’s important to mention (when teaching about contraception and STD prevention) that the only fool-proof way to avoid pregnancy is to not engage in intercourse. That said, I think it’s equally important that they then explain that oral, anal and other forms of sex can and probably WILL lead to some form of STD in the absence of adequate protection.
Kids today think it’s only about avoiding a pregnancy. Far from it. On the lesser end of the spectrum, some STD’s are not curable and can destroy your fertility. At worst, they can kill you.
All this fundie, up-tight, prissy bullshit is just helping to wipe out a young and UNDERinformed generation. The PTB like to pretend that kids don’t learn anything unless it is taught to them in “school.” It is egregiously naive to think that kids don’t already KNOW how to have sex. The important part is getting them the info they need to make a mature decision about when to have sex and then to have safe, responsible sex.
Off my soapbox now. Thank you.
24 May 2006, on 2:04 pm
Audrey said “Jokes aside though… as far as abstinence goes I think it’s important to mention (when teaching about contraception and STD prevention) that the only fool-proof way to avoid pregnancy is to not engage in intercourse. That said, I think it’s equally important that they then explain that oral, anal and other forms of sex can and probably WILL lead to some form of STD in the absence of adequate protection.”
Audrey, As a mother of three grown kids, I agree with you. This is what we told our kids, BUT we were realistic in knowing that hormones make self-control nearly impossible at times and the little talks about abstinence goes out the window. (I saw this first hand when I was in an xian youth group when I was a teenager..there were several girls who became pregnant during the two years I belonged to that.)
So, that said, sex education is EXTREMELY important…not just to prevent pregnancy but there are so many dangerous STDs going around such as HPV (which causes cervical cancer), AIDS, Herpes and many other diseases. Teens need to know about these things and how to protect themselves. Fundies who do not want their kids to learn anything but the abstinence sermons are endangering their kids by withholding that knowledge from them.