Happy Anniversary, 9/11
31 August 2006 by Sean
Here it comes. The fifth anniversary. And all of the exploitation for movie ticket profits, and TV ratings, all of the political posturing and finger pointing for election booth profits, and all of the self-righteousness is gonna come spewing out. Right up till election day. And then we’ll get back to shopping for the War on Christmas, boiz and goilz!
From the right-wing rag Frontpagemag.com [Other sites have links that say "email to a friend" -- these stiffnecks have a big stars-n-kickass graphic that says "SEND THIS TO YOUR E-BRIGADE!' 50-year-old men still playing with Tonka trucks and G.I. Joes.]…
Anyway… This is of course a gushing review of what sounds like an incredibly biased upcoming ABC miniseries called “The Path to 9/11.” I’m not gonna be a Dope of a Pope on a Rope and go condemn a film before I see it (like Catholics do with everything that remotely criticizes their mega-cult), but I do smell a rat.
Harvey Keitel (gee, thanks, Harvey — always knew you were a deep thinker — standing there with your dick hanging out in “Bad Lieutenant ” going “I’m sorry, Lord. I’ve done so many bad things.”) plays FBI agent John O’Neill, who spent years tracking Al Qaeda, convinced that their brand of sophisticated terrorism would eventually hit our shores. He found out in the most tragic way that he was dead right: after basically quitting in protest from the FBI, he took a high-paying top security job at the World Trade Center. He died there on Sept. 11.
Don’t believe one thing you hear, half the things you read, one quarter of the things you see.
I know quite a bit about the story of John O’Neill, and I wonder how his family feels about this dramatization. Remember: he didn’t quit under the Clinton Administration. He quit under the Bush Administration. As did many others. Clinton was not working in remotely the same political climate before 9/11, so the comparisons are ludicrous. And yet, I still think his dealings with this situation, from the moment the first plane hit, would have seemed like sheer political genius compared to this monkey. Someone should write about an alternate universe in which, somehow, Clinton was elected to a third term and exactly that happened. I would guarantee that the whole fucking world wouldn’t hate us now, Osama bin Laden would be in captivity, there would be no nightmare in Iraq, Lebanon would not have even happened, and we would be well on our way to a Middle East peace accord.
Travel the world and talk to those who don’t have the luxury of just watching this on the TV news. They live it. You will pretty much hear the same thing.
I am no defender of either administration, but Clinton did not ignore the threat of OBL. They were extremeley aware of him and did everything they could to inform the incoming, arrogant administration of the threat. September 11 happened under George Bush’s watch. Get it? Fact is, his cronies were busy doing things like covering up the naked “Spirit of Justice”. Poke around. You will see John Ashcroft had drugs and porn on his mind before Sept. 11. Terrorism wasn’t even on his list. These guys live in 1965.
Wake the fuck up, America.
For a very balanced story of the life and death of John O’Neill, go here. Fascinating, well worth printing and taking home with you.
31 August 2006, on 9:10 am
I would guarantee that the whole fucking world wouldn’t hate us now, Osama bin Laden would be in captivity, there would be no nightmare in Iraq, Lebanon would not have even happened, and we would be well on our way to a Middle East peace accord.
What reason do you have to believe that Osama bin Laden would have been found? How would Hezbollah, Hamas, Israel and all that not be problems?
31 August 2006, on 10:48 am
It’s funny that you mention that. I wrote a couple of entries in my blog a year or so ago, musing on what kind of world we would live in if Al Gore had won.
From the entry:
Someone else once remarked (it has been attributed to Abraham Lincoln) that America would never be destroyed from the outside; if it could be destroyed, it would be subverted from within.
I will forever think of December 12, 2000, as the day America was subverted from within.
Here is the entry, if you’re interested.
31 August 2006, on 11:39 am
“Someone should write about an alternate universe in which, somehow, Clinton was elected to a third term and exactly that happened. I would guarantee that the whole fucking world wouldn’t hate us now, Osama bin Laden would be in captivity, there would be no nightmare in Iraq, Lebanon would not have even happened, and we would be well on our way to a Middle East peace accord.”
[This is interesting - everyone seems to be choosing this particular passage to quote]
So many times I’ve thought about this myself, how different things would be if Clinton had been in office then. The man grasped the issues and the nuances and wouldn’t have made incredibly stupid statements like, “they hate freedom” (not to mention incredibly stupid actions like going after Saddam and not Osama.) It is to weep.
31 August 2006, on 11:52 am
Let’s see, Tebbit- just off the top of my head:
Clinton would have taken out the Taliban and sent enough troops- without diverting them to Iraq- to scour the Pakistani-Afghan border. OBL would have been found and/or killed along with Zawahiri because Clinton wouldn’t have left Afghanistan like one more kicked over sand castle on his way to the next.
Clinton would never have dreamed up this “Axis of Evil” bullshit, which might just have allowed the growing reform movement in Iran to actually succeed in driving the religious extremists from the government, taking the power out of the hands of the mullahs, and, thereby, cutting Hezbollah off at the source- you know, instead of strengthening the Ahmadinejad-type nutjobs through cowboy rhetoric and the reactionary use of US military might(which has essentially given Iran the country of Iraq- minus Kurdistan).
Clinton would have continued his diplomatic work with Israel and Palestine, legitimizing the Abbas(sp?) government in the Palestinian Authority and marginalizing Hamas- instead of driving the electorate into their arms through blind loyalty to Israel and, generally, neglecting the entire situation.
Sure, it’s all hypothetical, but it’s based on his policies while in office and statements he’s made since. Would there be peace and love everywhere, a mutual respect and understanding between the Muslim world and the West? Of course not, it would take time to get over decades- centuries, of hatred and bloodshed but at least it would be a start by someone who doesn’t think there’s anything funny about peace, love, and understanding.
Oh, and, based on his regret for not getting involved in Rwanda- a colossal mistake, he admits, you can bet your ass that the genocide in Darfur would have been nipped in the bud at the first sign of it, with a diplomatic smackdown on the Sudanese government and troops to back it up.
31 August 2006, on 12:45 pm
About a month or so before he quit, John O’Neill’s briefcase went missing from his hotel room in Florida that apparently contained classified and sensitive information. I’ve always wondered if it was something one of his colleagues did to him to make him look incompetent because O’Neill was seen as a boatrocker.
31 August 2006, on 1:01 pm
Here’s a great book on O’Neill.
The Man Who Warned America: The Life and Death of John O’Neill, the FBI’s Embattled Counterterror Warrior
There was also a good Frontline episode about him which can be found on the PBS web site.
The Bushies really hate to have John brought up because he simply places the exclamation point on their mind-numbing incompetance.
31 August 2006, on 2:23 pm
[...] http://gods4suckers.net/archives/2006/08/31/happy-anniversary-911/ This is of course a gushing review of what sounds like an incredibly biased upcoming ABC miniseries called “The Path to 9/11.” I’m not gonna be a Dope of a Pope on a Rope and go condemn a film before I see it (like Catholics do with everything that remotely criticizes their mega-cult), but I do smell a rat. [...]
31 August 2006, on 2:34 pm
The problem is that America does not want to wake up, or more precisely, most hard working Americans are intellectually lazy.
I figured this out during the Regan administration when the stock room ditto head told me how we needed more aircraft carriers to be secure and that the only way to do this was through tax cuts. Time and gain I ran into this “have my cake and eat it too” mentality, and not just the righies. My hippie mother in law expects subsidized health care and free taxis’ for the elderly, but does not expect to pay taxes because she doesn’t believe in the government. This is a big problem, self-deception, entitlement, and greed.
I have never understood why the “tax and spend liberals” have not been able to make “borrow, spend, and default conservatives” stick to the right. I think it is because most Americans don’t seem to realize, on a very fundamental emotional level, that using a credit card is not free money. I think that this is symptom of a wider and deeper fissure in most people’s reality. Faith, religion, and “values” are another facet if this issue.
It seems that most Americans are satisfied with sloganeering to deal with complex issues, “flip flop”, “family values”, “cut and run”, “culture of corruption”. Life is in the details and minutiae, and having everything constantly boiled down to the”bottom line” reduces the value of individual interpretation and delegates assessment of reality to others; pleased check your brains at the door no original thinking required. It is the perfect way to subvert and democracy, and we do it to ourselves; while assuaging our conscience with reality TV. The Romans has it right “bread and circus”.
Or leaders have played to the mass’s need for comfort rather than drawing us into participating in the solution. They know we don’t want too explore complex issues, we just want our MTV.
Iraq as an example of deception, please don’t get sidetracked arguing each of the bullet points; that is for another time, please see the pattern I am trying to paint.
Some of the real and valid reasons for the Iraq war:
1. Oil, control energy and you control the fate of the world, no blood for oil is an altruistic and very unrealistic position.
2. Get out of Saudi Arabia, Osama’s jihad was all about this so go somewhere else. This issue is a book unto itself.
3. A reasonably stable, quasi democratic Iraq would have had incredible influence over Iran and Syria.
4. WMD’s while BushCo massively overplayed this hand most analysts and nations believed this, including Clinton, yellow cake bullshit notwithstanding.
5. Saddam was a first class asshole and in the context of a new world order that deals with rouge states and cross national terrorism allowing Iraq to ignore 10 years of UN resolutions and slowly kill his people needed to stop.
6. The immanent collapse of Iraq and the need to control the outcome. Prior to the war the Pentagon’s assessment and principal worry was of Iraq collapsing from within and the fallout from that.
When and how to have responded and dealt with these issues, should have been the subject of considerable public thought, analysis, and debate. Instead our leaders presented with was dumbed down rhetoric, “WMD’s bad…Saddam’s a terrorist…you are with us or against us”.
That the real issues were not brought to the forefront of the public discussion and that we as Americans did not demand a deeper explanation or understanding of the situation is OUR problem. All the points enumerated above are subject to debate; that we did not properly discuss them has lead to a badly planned and ineptly executed war that really squandered both resources and an extremely rare opportunity to redefine the Middle East.
This is a result of we the people not wanting to see reality or dirty our little minds with big issues. As a culture we still think of nerds as a bad thing, the only reason Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, or any other pop culture nerds were admired was that they became rich doing it, not because they used their brains.
For decades we have vilified politicians (not always a bad thing) and derided government worker as lazy. Go away we don’t like or trust you, or your big government, just tell us what we want to hear and we’ll put you in power; and make sure the chicken in my pot is organic. We have hoisted our selves by our own petard. We certainly would have been better served by a different president; I think Gore would have been a great president.
If this essay/rant fragments into many different directions, it is because the subject “the mind and culture of America” is fragmented thing (I am also exercising my birthright as an American to invoke a little intellectual laziness in not cleaning up my writing). Wake up America, read a book (preferably one that is not on Oprah’s list), take a stand, be part of the solution (what ever side you’re on).
To my friend a Gifs you are doing something, thanks, the people who need to read this will never see it.
31 August 2006, on 4:14 pm
Hmmm, Clinton had every chance during his presidency to stop the radical islamists. He skipped out on defending the country at every opportunity. It was a good thing that his hands were tied by the republican congress or he would have ruined the economy too. I think it was his justice dept’s war on Microsoft that signaled the end of the stock market boom. Just do a timeline and see for yourself or be an idiot and listen to this meathead fill your brain with lies. Typical left fashion.
Everyone should thank thank the supremes for not letting AlGore into office. we would be doomed for sure.
31 August 2006, on 5:07 pm
Of course you smell a rat, Silly, you live with them. As for waking the f up, America, we’ve been wide awake all along, thank-you, please stop shouting. Thank God this film has already been reviewed by rational viewers so now I don’t have to bother with it, or with any more wild-ass reactions to it like yours, from people like you who also couldn’t be bothered to see it.
31 August 2006, on 5:56 pm
No, Blow Job, Clinton sought to defang radical Islam by engaging it. He sought to bring an end to the Palestinian/Israeli mess because therein lies one of the roots of that extremism- the perversion of our foreign policy to placate the Israelis. He, and Gore, both fought for alternative fuels and invested in new technologies that could one day free us of dependence on foreign oil and- the other root- our junkie, reactionary foreign policy. And, no, of course that doesn’t excuse the actions of the terrorists or imply that they don’t deserve to suffer immensely for attacks on us. It’s merely an explanation of what we’ve done to exacerbate the situation- and what we could do to take it down a couple notches. If you honestly think that, were we not in their faces, meddling in their affairs to their detriment(see the Shah of Iran), they would give two shits about what America is or does, you’re crazy.
31 August 2006, on 6:02 pm
oh, and Bore, which America is it that’s been awake all along, the almost 70% of Americans who believed that Saddam was connected to 9/11? The legions of “patriots” with yellow ribbons on the tailgate’s of their SUV’s- you know, guzzling the crude that was financing those seeking to blow up those troops they were “supporting”? The vast numbers of Americans that wouldn’t stand up when it became apparent that we were sending our soldiers over underarmored, underequipped, and undermanned? The ones screaming that dissent equals treason? How ’bout the Xian Dominionists trying to turn this country into a third-world theocracy? Tell me.
31 August 2006, on 6:10 pm
Gee Joe Blow
Clinton authorized and used cruise missiles to get Osama but he escaped. The second time CIA gave him a target opportunity was when Osama met with the foreign minister of Afghanistan in Kabul. He declined to authorize because that would have killed a foreign minister in his own capital. That was during the impeachment hearings. Newt’s goal of preventing the Clinton administration for getting anything done including shutting down the government, financing a full time team of lawyers to get the president, putting the kibosh on any judicial nominees and a spurious purely political impeachment process, had its costs.
IF you’re going to refute something use facts
Please enumerate
Please enumerate
That is why with a Republican president and congress we are doing so well now. Given that we have moved from a surplus to a deficit (why don’t you pay up you 25k now)
Most likely the dot com era where every idiot with a trading account thought themselves an investing genius. Where all the financial pundit touted Amazon as hi-tech instead of an online catalog that it is.
By making a bunch of statements with no backup and then resorting to name calling, you display distasteful habit of spin followed by vitriol the very problem solving approach that got us not this mess in the first place.
Wow so you support the politicization of the judicial branch. Technically they are to adjudicate legal disputes and don’t have the power to “let anyone into office. The Supreme Court’s standing in this case, since it was ruling on a State election law, is very questionable in this case.
A Faltering economy
Skyrocketing energy prices
Two major nutcases with nukes
An unsustainable war bankrupting the future and impeding our ability to fight anything required.
A world significantly overpopulated and about to face a variety of economic and ecological traumas that will define the state of civilization for the next century or so.
A world at ideological cross roads between faith and rationality, in an era when WMD’s will become the province of lesser states and organizations.
Yeah we’re much better off with a lying c student and bunch of fundamentalist ideologs in charge. We are doomed unless something is done about it.
31 August 2006, on 6:13 pm
Oops moderator I used the wrong delimiter to include pervious comment please remove my first copy of this.
Gee Joe Blow
Clinton authorized and used cruise missiles to get Osama but he escaped. The second time CIA gave him a target opportunity was when Osama met with the foreign minister of Afghanistan in Kabul. He declined to authorize because that would have killed a foreign minister in his own capital. That was during the impeachment hearings. Newt’s goal of preventing the Clinton administration for getting anything done including shutting down the government, financing a full time team of lawyers to get the president, putting the kibosh on any judicial nominees and a spurious purely political impeachment process, had its costs.
IF you’re going to refute something use facts
**Hmmm, Clinton had every chance during his presidency to stop the radical islamists.**
Please enumerate
**He skipped out on defending the country at every opportunity.**
Please enumerate
**It was a good thing that his hands were tied by the republican congress or he would have ruined the economy too. **
That is why with a Republican president and congress we are doing so well now. Given that we have moved from a surplus to a deficit (why don’t you pay up you 25k now)
**I think it was his justice dept’s war on Microsoft that signaled the end of the stock market boom.**
Most likely the dot com era where every idiot with a trading account thought themselves an investing genius. Where all the financial pundit touted Amazon as hi-tech instead of an online catalog that it is.
**Just do a timeline and see for yourself or be an idiot and listen to this meathead fill your brain with lies. Typical left fashion.**
By making a bunch of statements with no backup and then resorting to name calling, you display distasteful habit of spin followed by vitriol the very problem solving approach that got us not this mess in the first place.
**Everyone should thank thank the supremes for not letting AlGore into office.**
Wow so you support the politicization of the judicial branch. Technically they are to adjudicate legal disputes and don’t have the power to “let anyone into office. The Supreme Court’s standing in this case, since it was ruling on a State election law, is very questionable in this case.
**we would be doomed for sure.**
A Faltering economy
Skyrocketing energy prices
Two major nutcases with nukes
An unsustainable war bankrupting the future and impeding our ability to fight anything required.
A world significantly overpopulated and about to face a variety of economic and ecological traumas that will define the state of civilization for the next century or so.
A world at ideological cross roads between faith and rationality, in an era when WMD’s will become the province of lesser states and organizations.
Yeah we’re much better off with a lying c student and bunch of fundamentalist ideologs in charge. We are doomed unless something is done about it.
31 August 2006, on 6:17 pm
Not-hung, sad, closeted rightwing circle jerk. Don’t get any on ya people.
31 August 2006, on 6:26 pm
I’m getting damn tired of hearing the whine, “It’s all Clinton’s faulllllt”. No, it fucking ISN’T. Clinton did ten times more during his administration to address terrorism, and fund counterterrorism measures, than BushCo have done in their entire tenure - a period of time, if I may remind you, that we’ve been trained to cringe whenever some neocon yells, “BOO! Terrorists! September Da 11th! Orange alert! RED alert! Buy duct tape!” and so on.
Don’t believe me, Joe? Having the usual knee-jerk response, rebuttals already bubbling to the surface of your LaBrea mind? Before you start, go read this - yes, that’s right, click on the nice colored text.
In case that article’s too long to hold your shortened attention span:
As it turns out, the Bush misAdministration did actual harm to counterterrorism. I will not speculate on motives, but I repeat: I am damn sick of hearing that Clinton got us into this mess. Clinton fucked up. A LOT. He did not, however, ignore the terrorist problem.
For everyone else, that link is to an article that says that the writer/producer of this misbegotten 9/11 special on ABC is a guy who can’t be trusted to be impartial. Noooo. Also, it details the many, many ways in which Clinton addressed the terrorist issue, and how the Bush administration has, since then, dismantled, underfunded, or outright ignored every piece of intel and every program meant to address the situation. The source material is from the FBI, among others, hardly the “liberal media”.
It should be noted that this is being aired by the same “liberal media” that had Paula Zahn discussing the impending Apocalypse, barely addresses the nearly uncountable illegal acts by the current administration, any of which should result in impeachment and prison in a normal world, and that went batshit crazy over a blow job, giddy with joy that justice would be served any second now by impeaching the guy who got it. Mmm. No bias there.
Goddamn, I’m sick of propaganda, and the willfully ignorant fools who buy into it.
31 August 2006, on 8:00 pm
I gotta get in on this.
I’m no fan of Clinton either. He should have invaded Afghanistan as soon as the Taliban started killing women for traveling alone, and killing men who liked to shave their beards off. However, he did act against Al Queda when they attacked the USS Cole.
Now, to all you apologists of King George, the War Criminal in Chief, let me ask you this: Where was our vaunted military on 9-11? Where were the the fighters to shoot down these rogue airliners? NORAD for years BOASTED that they could intercept any hijacked plane within 15 minutes and shoot it down.
Where were they on 9-11? Playing war games based on soviet era dynamics. There were all of 3 fighter jets within striking distance of the East Coast. They were never scrambled.
Clinton and/or Gore would have never let this happen because he would have been accused of dereliction of duty. Bush, on the other hand, gets to read “My Pet Goat” to elementary school students in the state his brother runs. By comparison, the corporate media gave him a pass.
Secondly, there is the Project for a New American Century. This is the bunch that were wishing for a “second Pearl Harbor” so they could have an excuse to commit war crimes to advance their political agenda.
And who signed this “Statement of Principles”?
Cheney. Rumsfeld. Wolfowitz. Scooter Libby. Current US Ambassodor to Iraq Zalmay Khailizad. Richard Armitage. Former VP and mental midget Dan Quayle. Fmr. CIA head Frank Gaffney. Gary fucking Bauer. Jeb Bush.
All of these fucks were hell-bent on deposing Saddam well before 9-11, and none of them gave two shits about the threat that OBL and Al Queda posed to our country.
They still don’t. You know why? Because the Bushies are in business with the bin Ladens. I give you the Carlyle Group. They are major players in every major industry, like Aerospace and Defense, private health care and telecommunications.
And who was involved with this company on 9-11? Here’s Wikipedia’s entry:
James Baker III, former United States Secretary of State under George H. W. Bush, Staff member under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, Carlyle Senior Counselor, served in this capacity from 1993 to 2005.
George H. W. Bush, former U.S. President, Senior Advisor to the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board from April 1998 to October 2003.
George W. Bush, current U.S. President. Was appointed in 1990 to the Board of Directors of one of Carlyle’s first acquisitions, an airline food business called Caterair, which Carlyle eventually sold at a loss. Bush left the board in 1992 to run for Governor of Texas.
Frank C. Carlucci, former United States Secretary of Defense from 1987 to 1989; Also, former Princeton wrestling partner of present US Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld. Carlyle Chairman and Chairman Emeritus from 1989 to 2005.
Richard Darman, former Director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget under George H. W. Bush, Senior Advisor and Managing Director of The Carlyle Group from 1993 to the present
William Kennard, Chairman of the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) under President Bill Clinton, Carlyle’s Managing Director in the Telecommunications & Media Group from 2001 to the present.
Arthur Levitt, Chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) under President Bill Clinton, Carlyle Senior Advisor from 2001 to the present
John Major, former British Prime Minister, Chairman, Carlyle Europe from 2002 until 2005
Frank McKenna, Canadian ambassador to the United States and former member of Carlyle’s Canadian advisory board
Mack McLarty, White House Chief of Staff under President Bill Clinton, President of Kissinger McLarty Associates, Carlyle Senior Advisor from 2003 to the present
Anand Panyarachun, former Prime Minister of Thailand(twice), former member of the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board until the board was disbanded in 2004
Fidel Ramos, former president of the Philippines, Carlyle Asia Advisor Board Member until the board was disbanded in 2004
Park Tae-Joon, former prime minister of South Korea, Founder/Honorary Chairman of POSCO
THere’s also this tantalizing piece of info:
In the book House of Bush, House of Saud, author Craig Unger states that Saudi Arabian interests have given $1.4 billion to firms connected to the Bush family. That figure was again quoted by Michael Moore in his film Fahrenheit 9/11. Nearly 90% of the 1.4 billion, about 1.18 billion, refers to Saudi Arabian government contracts awarded to defense contractor BDM in the early to mid 1990s. Carlyle sold its interest in BDM before former President George H. W. Bush joined as an advisor, therefore seemingly debunking these assertions.
The connection to the Bush family, however, is somewhat tenuous. Former President George H.W. Bush retired from Carlyle in October 2003. He never invested in any defense deals or any companies that do business with the government and his only role as a Senior Advisor to the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board was to give speeches at Carlyle events. Meanwhile, while it is true that President George W. Bush served on the Board of Directors of early Carlyle acquisition Caterair, he was asked to leave two years later by one of the founders and has had no personal dealings with Carlyle ever since.
The Saudi Arabian relatives of Osama bin Laden (not Osama bin Laden himself) were also minor investors in Carlyle until October 2001 when the family sold its $2.02 million investment back to the firm in light of the public controversy surrounding bin Laden’s family after September 11. It is claimed that the bin Laden family has publicly disowned the al-Qaeda leader, but privately they have kept in contact with him. It is also claimed that bin Laden has no economic interest whatsoever in Saudi Binladin Group (SBG). While the Carlyle Group did invest on SBG’s behalf, said financial arrangement was terminated by mutual consent.
Hmm. Can you say “vested self interest”? How about “conflict of interest”?
No wonder Osama got away, and no wonder Iraq was used to distract us from the real threat.
Bush could have gone after OBL. Instead, he made the situation worse. Dereliction of duty. War Criminals, every last one of them.
Would someone call the Hague and have all these fuckers arrested? PLEASE?
31 August 2006, on 11:29 pm
Da Rat Bastid: That was beautiful.
1 September 2006, on 12:03 am
Some interesting comments from a conservative site that linked to this post:
Director Cunnigham correctly points out that this is not a “right wing agenda movie”. It in fact bashes the Bush administration in a number of ways, and also makes Bush-basher Richard Clarke look like a hero.
That’s because he is. Has anyone else, right up to this coward of a president, had the courage to utter these words: “Your government failed you … and I failed you. We tried hard, but that doesn’t matter because we failed. And for that failure, I would ask … for your understanding and for your forgiveness.”
And Ann Coulter says those 9/11 widow “harpies” should just shut the fuck up about their dead husbands.
Too bad the Bushies didn’t also listen to O’Neill or Scott Ritter. All dead right, all ignored.
Also (as with the case of the original 9/11 Commission), the film omits some aspects of the story that could have been beneficial towards Bush - including the fact that some involved in the 1993 WTC bombing had significant Iraqi connections. [Obviously, you can’t tell every aspect of a story spanning over 8 years in a single 5-hour movie.]
And the Bushies and their ilk have had significant Iraqi connections for years. So what?
But there is certainly no denying that conservatives are gravitating to this project much more so than the left. Does that make the film “right wing”? Not on your life.
Think of it in terms of C-SPAN. When it was first introduced, the political Right clearly embraced that channel in a much more fervent manner than the Left. Would you then call C-SPAN partisan? Of course not.
C-SPAN appealed more to conservatives because it finally offered a more neutral alternative to the liberal-biased network news that had been shoved down everyone’s throat until that time. The same dynamic will be at work in this instance.
Liberal media again. Fucking joke. When I hear the laughable term “liberal media” these days, I substitute it with the phrase “tries hard to have some journalistic ethics.” Watch FOX News a bit more, pinhead.
Bush does not come off as a hero here by any means. However, the Clinton administration has clearly been trying to whitewash past history to a much greater extent over 9/11. As a result, a film that truly “lets the chips fall where they may” is likely to have a disproportionate impact on their psyche than the Bushies.
Yeah, that massive Clinton spin machine, operating out of an office in Harlem.
Right now, all left-wing sites are hearing is that “conservative sites” are praising the film - therefore they automatiocally (and wrongly) conclude that it must be a “right-wing hit piece”, and are now calling for a boycott of ABC without having seen it for themselves.
So why don’t you petition the producers of ABC to offer it for free to download and set up a blog where we can talk about it? You knows we po’ black folks don’t have no cable.
But the ignorant partisan backlash by those who haven’t seen “The Path to 9/11″ is only going to get worse once Limbaugh sees this thing and comments on it…Believe me.
Damn straight. So why have you ignorant partisans made that fucking bloviating idiot one of your national heroes?
1 September 2006, on 1:52 am
The WTC looks like giant bongs.
5 September 2006, on 3:52 am
J-blow
It was a good thing that his hands were tied by the republican congress or he would have ruined the economy too.
Wait a minnit - that frickin’ congress that shut down parts of the govmnt?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich#Government_shutdown_and_the_Air_Force_One_.22snub.2C.22_1995-1996
“The momentum of the Republican Revolution stalled in late 1995 and early 1996 as a result of a budget fight between Congressional Republicans and President Bill Clinton. Without enough votes to override President Clinton’s veto, Gingrich led the Republicans not to submit a revised budget, allowing the previously-approved appropriations to expire on schedule, and causing parts of the Federal government to shut down for lack of funds; somehting many Americans supported in order to reign in wasteful government spending.”
Everyone should thank thank the supremes for not letting AlGore into office. we would be doomed for sure.
You gotta be fucking kidding me. You do realize that the Shrub administration ordered O’Neill (who headed up the UBL task force) to back off in August of 2001, because they were trying to secure a deal for that Afghani pipeline (which has yet to occur)? -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline
I’ll gladly lend you a quarter, so you can go buy a clue.