Prostitutes, crank, and evangelism!
4 November 2006 by CassandraYou know, this is just so big that I don’t even know what to say that hasn’t been said already. But I’ve come across some really great pieces written by others, so I’ll start there.
This one is from Secular Rebellion on Myspace. He listed this under “Parties and Nightlife” LMAO! I loved the title.
Evangelism is SUPER, thanks for asking!
It seems that no matter how many of these mega-church pastors and evangelists make grave and outright lies to their congregations… the sheep that are under their control just lie down and take it as some sort of a ..test of faith.. or ..the influence of Satan… Jim Bakker, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Robert Tilton and now Rev. Haggard are all cheats, liars, deviants and philanderers- yet somehow through their ..higher calling.. they are forgiven by the sheep which they lead.
This came from Gary Lenaire, also on Myspace. He posted this as a bulletin.
Please notice [...] that Ted Haggard has been lying and then changing his story. He lied and said he DID NOT KNOW the gay escort Mike Jones. Once Haggard found out that Jones could prove his affiliation with Haggard, Haggard changed his story. Now, being forced to tell the truth, Haggard is saying that he does know Jones, paid him for a “massage” and bought meth from him. Haggard is now saying that he didn’t have “sex” with Jones and that he bought meth but “threw it away” without using it.
PLEASE NOTICE: Haggard knows that there may be no way for Jones to prove the sex acts or that he actually used the meth. It seems to me that becuase of that Haggard is again lying about the allegations that cannot be proven. I mean, he bought meth and threw it away? Received a “massage” from a gay escort but didn’t have sex? Yeah right.
He then listed a few quotes from articles that are floating around. I also want to mention that Gary Lenair recently wrote An Infidel Manifesto. It’s coming out on December 11th. Check it out!
Here’s my thought about the meth. Haggard says, “I was tempted but I never used it…”
He was tempted to buy and use meth?? I don’t know about you, but I don’t go around fighting my meth temptations. Let me be honest, I’ve done my fair share of experimenting. But the typical person doesn’t just jump into speed without some past drug use. I’m sure it happens, but if a person is tempted to use meth, odds are they smoke a little bit of pot, or do a little coke, before asking to get hooked up with a “$100 or $200 supply.”
But I must say, Haggard’s choice in male prostitutes is quite good! Mike Jones is a hottie! Check out those muscles. I’m sure he gives one hell of a “rub down.”
4 November 2006, on 8:00 am
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4 November 2006, on 8:19 am
I just can’t help but flash-back to the clip in Dawkins’s “The Root Of All Evil”.
Can’t help but see, even now, still in merely my memory, the filthy evil smug fixed plastered facial expression that passed for a smarmy grin. That face and expression are burned (figuratively, but genuinely) in my memory and the very memory-sight makes me ill.
Can’t forget the explosion afterwards when he gets stuck into Dawkins and crew for calling “God’s children animals”.
Better’n callin’ ‘em drug-f*cked evil abominant homosexuals, hey there Ted?
I can feel, now, just a little less nauseous when my memory betrays me.
… I don’t think “abominant” is a word, but I’m pretty sure everybody here gets the meaning. Huh. No hits in the online dictionary aggregator, but 25600 hits on Google. Sheesh.
Dear Ted: just in case we atheists are somehow utterly - and impossibly - wrong and you WERE right? I’ll have the satisfaction of knowing that you’d be right there next to me being sodomised by the bulls from Satan’s own herd and massaged by all the cast from “Queer As Folk”… with all your faithful up in Cloudland watching you.
… I feel curiously satisfied now.
4 November 2006, on 10:58 am
My gaydar says Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council is a repressed homosexual himself. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s had a massage or two himself, or at least is on the lookout for a “masseur”. It’s about time these hypocrites are exposed!
4 November 2006, on 11:25 am
Maybe we’ll get lucky and King Pastor Bob will pronounce Haggard guilty under his neo-biblical American Criminal Code. Then the King’s merry band of theobots- Dani, Mr. Dani, their brood, and the rest of the flock, could assemble and stone the disgraced creep. Man, I wish I lived in Colorado- not because I think homosexuals should be executed, oh, no, but just because I’d like to hit Ted Haggard in the head with a split-fingered fast
ballrock.“Well, they’ll stone ya when you’re trying to feel so good,
They’ll stone ya cos dreams of men make morning wood.
They’ll stone ya for thinking unaccepted thoughts.
Then they’ll stone ya for not obeying the theobots
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.
Well, they’ll stone ya when you’re romancin’ your sheep
They’ll stone ya if they don’t like with whom you sleep
They’ll stone ya when you bed your mom-in-law
They’ll stone ya for any nudity you saw
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.
They’ll stone ya when you dress up like a slut
They’ll stone ya when you take it up the butt.
They’ll stone ya when you have your neighbor’s wife
They’ll stone ya cos you lead a godless life.
Tell ya what, I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.
Well, they’ll stone you if you try to die with dignity
Then they’ll stone you just for ending a pregnancy
They’ll stone you for gay massages while on meth
They’ll stone you, stone you, stone you, stone to death
Yes, but I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.
Well, they’ll stone you when you’re trying to turn a trick
They’ll stone you with a rock, a clod, a brick.
They’ll stone you and say you’ve earned the wage of sin.
They’ll wake you up and stone you all over again.
But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.”
R. Zimmerman & Rainy Dog Zilla #23 & 42
4 November 2006, on 11:30 am
[...] It had to be done… By Cassandra You can’t tell me that you didn’t think about it when you saw the picture of Ted in the post below… [...]
4 November 2006, on 12:04 pm
Raindogzilla, as I predicted, Ted is G4S front page news hehe, you just couldn’t resist.
Honestly I have never ever heard of this guy. I don’t pay much attention to ‘pop Christianity’ but if he did what he was accused of he needs to go into Christian rehab. I don’t trust those ‘mega churches’ - seems like it’s just a big feel good club where they tell people what they want to hear so they can keep the tithes rolling in.
4 November 2006, on 12:14 pm
he needs to go into Christian rehab
Yeah, he needs to go into “Christianity Anonymous” to get over religion.
4 November 2006, on 1:45 pm
Yeah, he needs to go into “Christianity Anonymous” to get over religion.
Would that be an 11 Step program since there is no higher power?
4 November 2006, on 1:45 pm
This, to me, really sums it up. It’s why I sometimes get so angry — logic just doesn’t work. In the cult I grew up in, they actually preached that it didn’t matter what the “man of god” did, he was still the “man of god” and you better follow him, no matter what.
They would use the example of David and Bathsheba, etc., to show how ‘right’ this was.
4 November 2006, on 1:55 pm
Would that be an 11 Step program since there is no higher power?
KR - Maybe they could pass out stuffed fluffy pink unicorns for the recovering to snuggle in place of the missing higher power delusion till they outgrow the delusion and the need for imaginary friends.
4 November 2006, on 2:10 pm
Sorry - I forgot to ‘blockquote’ the first paragraph in my post above…
4 November 2006, on 2:29 pm
Martian, fixed.
4 November 2006, on 2:42 pm
I had to give in and blog on it, too. It’s too good to pass up. LOL!
4 November 2006, on 2:44 pm
I have nothing against these guys being gay, but I do have a problem with them being hypocrites. Jimmy Swaggert came to mind as soon as I heard about this.
4 November 2006, on 2:48 pm
KR:
Would that be an 11 Step program since there is no higher power?
During my therapy some years back, and being around many recovering people, I remember how shocked everyone was that the Salvation Army’s stepped program had/has 13-steps. They use AA’s twelve and add a special gawd step.
AA was not amused…
Naomi
4 November 2006, on 4:51 pm
On the subject of the ‘Sally Ann’ over here they used to run all-night shelters which charged the homeless a relatively substantial entrance fee. Before being fed and bedded for the night, the ‘Sally Ann’ would insist everyone had pray to the xtian god for ’salvation’, but those who wouldn’t (for whatever reason) were thrown back out into the street to sleep hungry and rough for the night. Naturally the ‘Sally Ann’ refused to refund the entrance fee these poor destitute people had paid them for a night’s shelter!
No wonder ‘General’ Booth (the founder of this sicko organisation) said on his death-bed, “I leave behind me an army of robbers!”
4 November 2006, on 7:22 pm
At Straight, Inc., the rehab I went to, we only had seven steps- in fact, graduating was called “Seventh Stepping”. When I started going to NA meetings, in pursuit of a young lady who caught my fancy, I realized someone owed me at least five more steps for the thirty grand spent at Straight.
Maybe Ted will check into the rehab where Mark Foley is holed up, where Ted could service Mark and Mark could service the poolboy.
I should state, in case it’s not obvious, that I also have no problem with Haggard being gay at all. It’s just such poetic justice for such a raving homophobe.
4 November 2006, on 7:40 pm
Haggard and Dawkins - The Root of All Evil, pt. 1
I agree. In fact, I feel bad for my GLBT friends who are now associated with this man in some way by the general public. But, hopefully it’s just one more crack in the mortar holding his flock’s beliefs together.
4 November 2006, on 8:02 pm
GIFS got a makeover, nice.
This is just another notch in the gay supporters belt.:D The Christian right have been blaming homosexuality on bad parenting, especially bad mothering for far too long and have made way too many claims of it being a choice and not what they are. Even the best of the best christians can not deny their homosexuality. Now I’m sure Ted tried really hard, but if your gay your gay and you cant run from it forever.
4 November 2006, on 11:43 pm
Considering the dangers of meth production and use, Haggard’s admission to purchasing the illegal drug should take center stage in the media. His homosexuality (or perhaps bisexuality is the better term) really pales in significance, especially since he may have just gotten a “massage”. (wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean…) What a lying twit!
5 November 2006, on 12:15 am
Who was evangelizing who?
5 November 2006, on 2:00 am
I agree about the damage this does to GLBT issues. So I’ll just stay with the “meth” angle.
On this link:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/11/3/0452/23608
you’ll find that a voice expert has tested two messages left on an answering machine. He confirms that they are truly from Haggard.
The content of the messages is interesting (they’re posted, as well); he speaks about dollar amounts, uses the word “we” (as though he’s buying for more than himself?) and uses the word “inventory”! Gawl-lee!!!
What a fucktard! He deserves everything bad that he gets…
Naomi
5 November 2006, on 3:15 am
Hey Cassy, come on up to wisconsin and Ill give you a “rub down”…
5 November 2006, on 3:27 am
I’m an atheist and I loathe the hold religion has on our culture. It sickens me.
However, I take no “satisfaction” in any man’s public downfall (okay, a little, but not much!) I just find it incredibly sad.
Yeah, there was that Dawkins clip with Ted in it. Ted seemed a little creepy and maniacal there for sure. But that’s what he is. He’s a nut-job that literally believes in the Bible.
And yeah, I realize that he is the biggest hypocrite for this and that that says something about religious followers, etc. And I can see where that might make an atheist feel “justified” in some of their positions, but…
I just feel bad for the guy. Not because he got caught and is in a world of personal turmoil. I feel bad for him because, like so many others, he lived and is living a life that goes against what he truly wants - all because of some crazed belief in archaic thought.
He’s a man. And, while he’s definitely got that “creepy” edge, he’s still worthy of respect. I don’t respect his positions, but I respect him as a person that got incredibly lost and caught up in the snare of religion.
He won’t change; and maybe that’s why I feel sorry for him. This is his chance to live in a way more true to who he is. However, he won’t do that. He’ll pray, and get nowhere closer to living the life he was meant to live in the first place.
And that is just sad.
As atheists, I don’t think we should become joyful or satisfied in a man’s public humiliation; like little kids saying, “told you so!!!” I think we should take a bit of happiness in religion coming to an end - if it ever does - but not in a man’s life coming to a very public and humiliating end (at least in as far as it was previously lived.) That just makes us childish and we are better than that, I would hope.
I know, it’s just funny what happened to this guy. And it is. I get that. But at the same time, it’s damn sad that he and so many like him are truly lost.
Anyway, that’s just my opinion. Thanks!
5 November 2006, on 4:35 am
Jim,
No-one is worth respect as of right. Respect is something that has to be earned. Malicious hypocrites, like the man in question, are never deserving of any respect.
And what is so delightful about the whole story is simply this: another manipulative and wicked sociopath who viciously condemns others for their actions has been exposed for the hypocritical liar and fraudster that he is.
Oh, just one other thing: the phoney god that this mendacious swindler claims exists and allegedly worships only shows respect to those who live their lives according to his way. In other words, even Haggard’s so-called god confirms that no-one is worthy of respect per se! So why should we show a mendacious, duplicitous, manipulative crook like Haggard any!
5 November 2006, on 9:58 am
“I don’t respect his positions” He he; just a little out-of-context humor.
Anyway, Jim, your empathy for Haggard is noble. I, however, feel differently. We’re all presented with choices in this world. We are responsible for the decisions we make and the paths we take. Haggard is not a victim. He was cognizant of his choices, and chose to preach hipocrasy, and by no means benign hipocrasy. Haggard’s “positions” were/are derogatory to our fellow humans who were his unfortunate targets. His rants consisted of prejudice and hate, and he spoke with a forked tongue.
I say laugh, laugh with glee. Haggard reaped what he had sown.
5 November 2006, on 11:23 am
Cry4turtles,
Believe me, I do find some humor in the whole thing. It’s so odd - like an episode of “The Simpsons” or something. And I can definitely understand why people wanna laugh. And, I have.
None the less, I feel bad for any person that once had potential to live in a good and true way, and then became lost in the mess of religion.
On that note, I have big problems with laughing at anybody’s hurt - even if it is “deserved.” (Yes, I have laughed at people’s misfortunes in the past, and probably always will - especially my own - but I do try to have some bit of respect for their humanity when I do so.)
Eh, I sound like a boring old atheist that can’t laugh at a good public reaming of a do-goody-goodster fundamentalist. I can!
I just think that there’s something to remembering that Ted and all the others like him are human, just like us. And for every stupid decision Ted makes, we make one as well. (And yes, I realize that you nor I have ever done anything as hypocritical and crass as ol’ Ted, but I bet we’ve both had our share of bad decisions and actions.)
And so, in the end, I can laugh at ol’ Ted, but I still feel bad for him, in that he had potential for so much more.
Thanks for listening!
6 November 2006, on 8:03 am
Jim, point taken. We are all human and quite imperfect. My heart goes out to Mrs. Haggard and her children; they are the ones that will bear the brunt of the pain. My ex cheated on me and produced a child with his “mistress”. The humiliation and betrayl were profound, and not easy to recover from (I got rid of him of course). No matter what anybody feels about Haggard, his family are his first-in-the-line victims.
6 November 2006, on 12:59 pm
Hi cry4turtles,
I understand what you are saying, but if Mrs H and her children were willing conspiritors in the fraud of religion put over by her husband/theirr father - and I suggest that they were - then they actually deserve to share the opprobrium and are not worthy of empathy or pity. Furthermore, I do not accept that his family were his ‘first-in-the-line victims’ since everyone this duplicitous and mendacious fraudster lied to about the existence of his so-called god are equal victims.
In short, whilst your compassion is laudable - as is Jim’s - I suggest that it is totally misplaced.
6 November 2006, on 3:52 pm
I often wonder if these guys wouldn’t just chill out some if they would give in to some of their less destructive needs. Aside from the fact that Haggard was already married, having a relationship with a gay man may have made him FAR less creepy because all of his pent-up anxieties wouldn’t be there. He was probably worried about
1)his wife finding out he cheated (screw the “massage” excuse),
2)his congregation finding out he’d cheated with a man,
3)his children finding out,
4)his own misguided belief system coming into severe conflict with his own natural instincts,
5)compromising his position of power,
6)compromising his position of wealth and his employment.
That can be pretty stressful to keep locked inside. I just wonder if that’s why he was so obsessed with his work and put so much effort into it all.
I DO NOT sympathize with this man. I think he and his kind are insane. However, I was just thinking about what it was like to be a xian who no longer believed. I kept going to church and praying for gawd to make me a believer again, because I no longer belonged to the group and that was scary (I was around 10, I think). I no longer fit in with my family, my church, my school friends, my Girl Scout troop. It was kind of traumatic. Nothing changed me, made me rebel against xianity (for drive-by xians who will want to say so). I just stopped believing one day. It was coming to terms with it that was hard and took the next 7 years.
I don’t like Ted Haggard. I can read people by body movements and facial expressions relatively accurately, by my own estimation and experience, and it was his weird fake smile with those dead looking eyes. A smile will show in the eyes and other muscles of the face. A fake smile doesn’t make the eyes look happy. I got the impression (and still do) from the Dawkins documentary, that Haggard was a miserable human being, which made him scary to me. I guess we know why now.
The fact that people like this influence the President of the United States (and actually HOLD that office) is bothersome and our next President should definitely be a gay Jewish atheist woman from Harlem.
6 November 2006, on 4:47 pm
I sort of felt bad for him until I read the “repulsive and dark” bit … The statement sort of makes him out to still be a Good Guy tormented by Demons and poised to enjoy a Miraculous Cure. Is he referring to his own hypocrisy and denial? Or his bloodsucking wealth? If he spoke that way about straight sex with his wife he’d get stoned, in the biblical sense, by the women in his congregation. Maybe he meant to say “COMpulsive”. It’s easy to make that mistake.
Gentlemen, just how widespread is this I’m-straight-but-I-like-to-do-men business, anyway? I keep hearing about it and the sheer illogic gives me a migraine. If it’s so repulsive it seems easy enough to avoid. Or is it only repulsive AFTER one gets caught?
Bean, really, I would be happy to run, but I’m not from Harlem…
6 November 2006, on 5:46 pm
Any of you see Borat? Freaking hilarious, at one point in the movie, he is totally down and out so he attends an Assembly of Gawd church.
He gets faith healed and fakes speaking in tongues and all that. Borat totally asshats fundies. I about pissed myself it was so funny, lol!
6 November 2006, on 6:16 pm
Gentlemen, just how widespread is this I’m-straight-but-I-like-to-do-men business, anyway?/
I can’t advise how preponderant that kind of delusional self-denial is, Orzo.
Suffice to say that anyone who claims not to be homosexual whilst performing homosexual acts is as irrational as someone who claims to believe in some unproven and unprovable entity which they call god (whilst conveninetly and simultaneously ignoring all the other thousands of so-called ‘gods’ that other people claim exist), and is either completely delusional or totally mendacious.
In Haggard’s case, he is clearly both, as well as being the hate-object of his own distorted psychopathology!
May he rot in the hell of his own making!
7 November 2006, on 7:54 am
Old Git, If Mrs. H knew of hubby’s affinity, then yes, she deserves no quarter. But the children are innocent, and will be crushed when they learn the truth about what daddy did. The lil’ ones are victims of indoctrination; they are not allowed to think freely, but hopefully they will someday.
When I was a little girl my dad left at 2:00 every afternoon to go to work. He fixed train wreaks. There are no words for the love I felt for and from him as he held my hand and walked me through giant, magical train engines. He pointed out his welds, and told me where the train came from and how the wreak occured. He is as big a hero to me today as he was when I was 5. I can’t imagine a child losing that solid foundation of love. It is a template for all of life’s endeavors.
The H children’s lives have been shattered by matters they may not even understand. They are broken and bleeding, and may forever be vulnerable. They literally lost their father, and my heart goes out to them.
7 November 2006, on 9:55 pm
I don’t really understand atheism and your hatred toward Christians, improving yourself
is necessary for personal growth. But in your hatred, you don’t see your own flaws.
And Jesus truly is . . .
8 November 2006, on 1:01 am
I tried to post here earlier and it just wouldn’t take. Ah well. Maybe tomorrow. Sigh. That’s a nice Lord of Constipation! Thanks for the laugh, as Jesus on the verge of an aneurism is always big fun!
8 November 2006, on 1:05 am
Bean - I don’t know what’s up today, but it’s happening to a couple of people. I have retrieved a bunch from the spam queue, too. If something won’t go through, open a new window and retype it and change a few of the wordings. That usually works for me.
8 November 2006, on 5:42 am
To Shawn Main,
I don’t really understand atheism
What’s not to understand, essentially it’s simply; atheists do not believe in god(s).
If you’re still having difficulty in understanding, you could take the trouble to read throguh this site or many of the excellent links published here.
and your hatred toward Christians,
What hatred? Ridiculing idiots is not hatred; cruel perhaps, but not hatred.
improving yourself
is necessary for personal growth.
And why do you consider that ignoring evidence-based science, rationality and logical thought and expression is ‘improving yourself’?
But in your hatred, you don’t see your own flaws.
Once again, what hatred?
Just because I don’t respect your delusional psychosis doesn’t mean that I hate you.
As for my own flaws, whilst I recognise that I have many, self-delusion regarding the unsubstantiated (and unsubstantiatable) nonsense that [your] god exists is not one of them.
And Jesus truly is…
Is what?
Existed? No, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support such a claim that the person whom you refer to as jesus ever existed.
The son of [your] god? First, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support a claim that [your] god exists (or ever existed). Second, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support a claim that the person whom you refer to as jesus was the son of this (supposed) god.
A figment of your imagination? Definitely!
8 November 2006, on 2:41 pm
Too bad that God has cracked pots to work with. But then again, of the 12 Jesus called to follow Him one of them was Judas Iscariot. It’s interesting to note that in the Book of Revelation (which I know most of you take as one of John’s hallucinations) Jesus walked among seven churches. Only one church passed His scrutiny without a word of correction; five other churches He had some good and some bad to say and only one church remained without a word of commendation, but rather condemnation. That’s six of seven churches that either needed improvement or a complete overhaul. The church that needed the complete overhaul was the church of Laodocia, the church that most mirrors christianity in America today.
Of course these kind of happenings are significant in Christian belief to prove that we are in what the Bible calls ‘the last days’as the church of Laodocia typifies the church that is to exist just prior to the coming of Christ. 2 Thessalonians 2:3a clearly says “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first…” Though these things pain me as a Christian, the significance of these events are sign posts that confirm the nearness of the coming of Christ.
Haggard will have to live with what he’s done…yes God can forgive him but he’s still going to harvest the bitter crop he’s planted. Whatsoever a man sow’s that shall he also reap.”
Sin always has a price and to whom much is given, of him shall much be required.
8 November 2006, on 2:44 pm
Stardust,
To get the little bit through that I did, I waited about 6 hours and tried it. Of course, by then I was home and my post was gone. It’s okay, it wasn’t snarky enough for me, anyway.
8 November 2006, on 2:51 pm
Hi Hoeppner,
Some old news that might have escaped your notice: there is absolutely no credible evidence whatsoever that this guy you call jesus ever existed.
As for the crap you keep spouting from your so-called ‘holy books’ - all of it is fabricated nonsense that only the severely credulous and ignorant would claim is reality.
Now why don’t ytou fuck off and peddle your phoney shit to the idiots that you are metaphorically screwing!
8 November 2006, on 4:46 pm
Hoeppner wrote: “Too bad that God has cracked pots to work with.”
Then why did he make them cracked? Blaming man for gawd’s mistakes? That’s an interesting take. God is perfect, but man makes him look bad.
8 November 2006, on 7:13 pm
Re: Hoeppner: Also, early xian leaders themselves were not too thrilled about the inclusion of Revelation in the orthodox bible. Protestantism’s saint, Martin Luther, was one of those who opposed its presence and would rather it have been left out.
Are you saying that you know better than Martin Luther, the man Protestants claim “liberated” the True Church (TM) from the AntiChrist of Catholicism?
9 November 2006, on 6:25 am
‘Course he is, Eve. His kind always have the ‘real, true interpretation’ and everyone else is wrong. Why, he’s one of the chosen ones, unlike dross like us!
And he doesn’t come here to convert, or to try to convince us that he is right - he comes here to convince himself of his own superiority and to reinforce his own delusions!
I suppose I should be more charitable; after all he is suffering from a debilitating mental illness and is in as much need of sympathy and care as someone suffering from, say, terminal cancer or AIDS. But the sad truth is that there is little that can be done for him, and any attempt to persuade him to see the irrationality of his delusions only reinforces them in his own mind.
Medication might help him, but the trouble is that most psychotics are unwilling to take it voluntarily.
All I can say is that I’m glad I’m not one of his neighbours and I hope that he doesn’t live in a small community as they’re all at risk.
9 November 2006, on 3:33 pm
Ack! Me, too! We had racist xians living next door who played loud country music that was incredibly offensive (think racist secret song on a country CD that uses the “N” word a lot) and gave my goth style of dress side long glances. They moved out. Yay! But we’re lucky that more crack pots (ha ha, yes, Hoeppner, that would be xians) didn’t move in there. Our other neighbor is a youth pastor at a local Baptist church…who listens to Black Sabbath and was at Woodstock. He kicks ass, has a cool little girl, and doesn’t seem to care what we believe. I answered the door wearing a pentagram and didn’t get any kind of weird vibes from him whatsoever.
It’s all luck of the draw, really.
(ending off-topic rant now, Hoeppner gives me the shivers so I had to comment on The Old Git’s neighborly statement)
9 November 2006, on 6:41 pm
Ah I love it here! I’m finally getting all the attention I was deprived of as a youth.
9 November 2006, on 7:45 pm
Old Git, maybe Hoeppner will break away and establish his own church with his own little cult of worshippers, since he seems to think he’s the one True Xian (TM) who truly understands the one True God (TM).
Of course, that’s what Jeffrey Lundgren did - and ended up executed for killing a family within his cult because god told him to do so.
10 November 2006, on 6:00 am
Eve,
That’s the one thing that all these ‘one True Xian ™ who truly understands the one True God ™’ want since it fulfils all their aspirations and delusions. Oh, and it also enables them to have sex with as many of their ‘true followers’ as they want - normally before ordering their murder!
See how Hoeppner is actually enjoying being the centre of attention here. His comment: ‘Ah I love it here! I’m finally getting all the attention I was deprived of as a youth’ speaks volumes!