Holy crap, just cover all bases, huh?
A German brother and sister are challenging the law against incest so that they can continue their relationship free from the threat of imprisonment.
What’s that old saying? “The family that plays together stays together?”
EEEEWWW!

Much love and heathen props to Naomi - the one woman godless posting machine!
Great stuff. Thank you.

Read Flouride and Aggression, by Mary Sparrowdancer, of Tallahassee FL. She lists no degrees or other qualifications, and provides no links to substantiate her claims. At one point, she notes that, according to NIH, two-thirds of Americans are obese, and follows that sentence, in the same paragraph with a CDC report of two-thirds of Americans drink fluoridated water. Ergo…what?

This is the same kind of activism exhibited by Rachel Carson when she practically single-handedly led to the ban on DDT in the US and consequently much of the rest of the world. She had zero scientific evidence to support any of her claims, only emotion. Since then tens of millions have died of mosquito-borne malaria in so-called third world countries, mainly africa. That number could have been dramatically reduced with the judicious use of DDT.

At the risk of getting poked in the eye with a sharp stick, Al Gore is using the same kind of emotional tactics in promoting catastrophic global warming. None of the science supports the extremes laid out in his science-fiction fantasy, oh, sorry, “documentary”, film about global warming. Take, for example, Sea Level rise. Gore says sea levels could rise as much as 20 feet within our lifetimes. Even the IPCC’s report gives an upper end of 43 centimeters of sea level rise by 2100 (which is still MUCH higher than observed rates over the last 100 years.) Gore inflates this by about 2000%.

What is the problem with incest if they do not make babies?

I mean, I would never sleep with my sister (not even if she were a man), but if two responsible, educated adults, who know what they are doing, who have options, free-willingly decide to sleep together and not make a baby, that is none of my business.

VL: OMG! Most don’t die, but it’s a hidden problem, isn’t it? Something so little but with huge implications…

I wonder, now, about how many in poverty are drinking unfluoridated well water?

Similarly, dental problems cause more than just teeth loss:

A growing body of research suggests that periodontal disease may exacerbate a variety of health problems as wide-ranging as diabetes, heart disease, respiratory disease — even premature births, experts say.

Also mentioned in the article, but not listed in the above quote, are bone diseases.

Did you floss today?

Excuse me, I’ll be right back…

ChuckA

I couldnt agree more! Even being military my dental bills are through the roof! I am having a LOT of dental work done due to having TMJ. MY whole jaw has to be realigned. And even the simple stuff is costing hundrends per tooth. Unfucking believable! I cant imagine how many poor people who have the same problems(cause it is a very common problem)are going to manage to get a very painful problem and if left unfixed, a problem that can cause teeth decay and loss, treated!?!

I know a lot of people cringe at the thought of socialist, but I am a socialist when it comes to medical! Medical care is NOT a luxury and shouldnt be only for the rich! EVERY CHILD DESERVES GOOD MEDICAL CARE!!

Naomi

Thanks for the new updates with a sense of humor.

In rebuttal to REV’s offhand comment about Rachel Carson, I quote the relevant section of the Wikipedia article on her:
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Starting in the mid-1940s, Carson became concerned about the use of newly invented pesticides, especially DDT. “The more I learned about the use of pesticides, the more appalled I became,” she wrote later, explaining her decision to start researching what would eventually become her most famous work, Silent Spring. “What I discovered was that everything which meant most to me as a naturalist was being threatened, and that nothing I could do would be more important.”

Silent Spring focused on the environment, and pesticides in particular. It was known as Carson’s crusade, and she worked on this book till death. Carson explored the subject of environmental connectedness: although a pesticide is aimed at eliminating one organism, its effects are felt throughout the food chain, and what was intended to poison an insect ends up poisoning larger animals and humans.

The four-year task of writing Silent Spring began with a letter from a close friend of Carson’s. It was from a New Englander, Olga Owens Huckins, who owned a bird sanctuary. According to the letter, the sanctuary had been sprayed unmercifully by the government. The letter asked Carson to immediately use her influence with government authorities to begin an investigation into pesticide use. Carson decided it would be more effective to raise the issue in a popular magazine; however, publishers were uninterested, and eventually the project became a book instead.

Now, as a renowned author, she was able to ask for (and receive) the aid of prominent biologists, chemists, pathologists, and entomologists. She used Silent Spring to create a mental association in the public’s mind between wildlife mortality and over-use of pesticides like dieldrin, toxaphene, and heptachlor. Her cautions regarding the previously little-remarked practices of introducing an enormous variety of industrial products and wastes into wilderness, waterways, and human habitats with little concern for possible toxicity struck the general public as common sense, as much as good science; “We are subjecting whole populations to exposure to chemicals which animal experiments have proved to be extremely poisonous and in many cases cumulative in their effects. These exposures now begin at or before birth and - unless we change our methods - will continue through the lifetime of those now living.”

Even before Silent Spring was published by Houghton Mifflin in 1962, there was strong opposition to it. As Time Magazine recounted in 1999:

Carson was violently assailed by threats of lawsuits and derision, including suggestions that this meticulous scientist was a “hysterical woman” unqualified to write such a book. A huge counterattack was organized and led by Monsanto, Velsicol, American Cyanamid - indeed, the whole chemical industry - duly supported by the Agriculture Department as well as the more cautious in the media.

Scientists such as American Cyanamid’s Robert White-Stevens (who wrote “If man were to follow the teachings of Miss Carson, we would return to the Dark Ages, and the insects and diseases and vermin would once again inherit the earth.”[1]), chemical companies, and other critics attacked the data and interpretation in the book. Some went further to attack Carson’s scientific credentials because her speciality was marine biology and zoology, not the field of biochemistry. Some went as far as characterizing her as a mere birdwatcher with more spare time than scientific background, calling her unprofessional. A fringe of her critics even accused her of being a communist.

In addition, many critics repeatedly asserted that she was calling for the elimination of all pesticides despite the fact that Carson had made it clear she was not advocating the banning or complete withdrawal of helpful pesticides, but was instead encouraging responsible and carefully managed use with an awareness of the chemicals’ impact on the entire ecosystem. In fact, she concludes her section on DDT in Silent Spring not by urging a total ban, but with Practical advice should be “Spray as little as you possibly can” rather than “Spray to the limit of your capacity.” [2]

Houghton Mifflin was pressured to suppress the book, but did not succumb. Silent Spring was positively reviewed by many outside of the agricultural and chemical science fields, and it became a runaway best seller both in the USA and overseas. Again, Time Magazine claimed that, within a year or so of publication, “all but the most self-serving of Carson’s attackers were backing rapidly toward safer ground. In their ugly campaign to reduce a brave scientist’s protest to a matter of public relations, the chemical interests had only increased public awareness.” [3]

Pesticide use became a major public issue, helped by Carson’s April 1963 appearance on a CBS TV special in debate with a chemical company spokesman. Later that year she was elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and received many other honors and awards, including the Audubon Medal and the Cullen Medal of the American Geographical Society.

Carson received hundreds of speaking invitations, but was unable to accept the great majority of them. Her health had been steadily declining since she had been diagnosed with breast cancer halfway through the writing of Silent Spring. In one of her last public appearances, Carson testified before President Kennedy’s Science Advisory Committee, which issued a report on May 15 1963 largely backing Carson’s scientific claims(http://www.nwhp.org/tlp/biographies/carson/carson-bio.html). However, she never did live to see the banning of DDT in U.S. She died on 14 April 1964, at the age of 56. In 1980, she was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor in the USA.
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She was a scientist, her book was based on research, not “pure emotion”.

–JJR