What the lion and Lamb ministries has to say about it in their own words.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v636396FNj3tTnQ
What the CDC has to say about it.
Studies have found the vaccine to be almost 100% effective in preventing diseases caused by the four HPV types covered by the vaccine– including precancers of the cervix, vulva and vagina, and genital warts. The vaccine has mainly been studied in young women who had not been exposed to any of the four HPV types in the vaccine.
The vaccine was less effective in young women who had already been exposed to one of the HPV types covered by the vaccine.
This vaccine does not treat existing HPV infections, genital warts, precancers or cancers.
How long does vaccine protection last? Will a booster shot be needed?
The length of vaccine protection (immunity) is usually not known when a vaccine is first introduced. So far, studies have followed women for five years and found that women are still protected. More research is being done to find out how long protection will last, and if a booster vaccine is needed years later.What does the vaccine not protect against?
Because the vaccine does not protect against all types of HPV, it will not prevent all cases of cervical cancer or genital warts. About 30% of cervical cancers will not be prevented by the vaccine, so it will be important for women to continue getting screened for cervical cancer (regular Pap tests). Also, the vaccine does not prevent about 10% of genital warts—nor will it prevent other sexually transmitted infections (STIs). So it will still be important for sexually active adults to reduce exposure to HPV and other STIs.Will girls/women be protected against HPV and related diseases, even if they don’t get all three doses?
It is not yet known how much protection girls/women would get from receiving only one or two doses of the vaccine. For this reason, it is very important that girls/women get all three doses of the vaccine.The FDA has licensed the HPV vaccine as safe and effective. This vaccine has been tested in over 11,000 females (ages 9-26 years) around the world. These studies have shown no serious side effects. The most common side effect is soreness at the injection site. CDC, working with the FDA, will continue to monitor the safety of the vaccine after it is in general use.
So this is all I have to say. Why give a bad report about something so effective? I’m guessing but I’ll bet the religious get kind of mad about not being included in the research. They do not have even the barest of entry fees (education) to make a real contribution. Yet they never hesitate to offer up their opinion. Regardless of their information and or education about the matter.
They have placed themselves as defacto gatekeepers about what will and will not be sanctioned for their flocks use. Denial of this vaccine is going to cost them the entire next generation of their women who are bound to contract cancers at a higher rate.
This is the first in a long line (I hope ) of vaccines that will prevent cancers of all kinds. This prevents cervical cancer and some other HPV related diseases. We are only beginning and the religious will have none of it.
This then has to be the most ignorant thing I have seen. Why would anyone regardless of their affiliation deny any other person such life affirming medicine?
Once again science has proven that religion is ineffectual in solving much of any problem. Science has set out to conquer disease and is succeeding. Religion stands in the way.
Additional reading:
Papillomavirus Vaccine Could Reduce Rate Of Vulval And Vaginal Cancers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070519133848.htm
And here:
CDC Questions and Answers concerning the Safety and Efficacy of Gardasil.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hpv/downloads/vac-faqs-vacsafe-efficacy.pdf
Hey there old friend jimmer! Glad to see you back! You’ve been missed!
Yes, the stupidity of the religious folks concerning these vaccines is frustrating for those who want this protection for their daughters. Why don’t most of them have the same attitude about measle, mumps and rubella vaccines? Most religious folks run to the doctor for the treatment of any illness as fast as any heathen (despite their “faith” that their god will take care of them), and from my first-hand experience when I was a teenager and a christian, many of these “children of faith” are quite sexually active. Believing in a god doesn’t make one immune to sexual desire. I would say that if they don’t want the vaccines for their daughters, it is their choice . . . but IS it THEIR choice? Do they have the right to allow their daughter to be at risk when there is a proven prevention if the young person has a moment of weakness and doesn’t follow their parents’ teaching of abstinence? Do we have a right to force them to have their children vaccinated? While we can ponder that question, on the other hand, I don’t think they have a right to tell us not to!
Stardust
Agreed. The religious of all forms have health issues boxed up in their superstitions. I have wondered most recently about the ways they have maligned good research and good medicine. I think it must be that since they have an imaginary friend they must feel some extra protection from all forms of harm.
OT - where is everyone? Has there been an atheist “rapture” or something? Two comments all day!
Well, in my neck of the woods (Northeastern PA) it is a gorgeous day and I’ve only just gotten around to checking my email and such. Then its back to the pool for me (^-^)
My views on religions involvement in medicine are plain and clear. Stay the hell out! From refusing vaccinations, to refusing birth control or abortions or genital mutilation (both female and male) it is just effin ridiculous the shit they and their ’sky daddy’ come up with.
Maybe no one’s commenting because there really isn’t much to say. That’s kind of how I feel.
I’m just confused, I guess. Why would anyone be against this? This is PROGRESS! This is a good thing. We may be able to prevent cancer! At least in my mind, these advances are the true miracles.
Who are these morons to deny us this?
Well, in my neck of the woods (Northeastern PA) it is a gorgeous day and I’ve only just gotten around to checking my email and such. Then its back to the pool for me
So, that’s where everyone is…out enjoying themselves and the nice weather!
I have been in and out today too…it’s absolutely gorgeous in Chicagoland. Our pool is waiting for a new pump motor to arrive…grrrr. Try keeping a pool from getting green without a pump…not easy.
Ok…I was just checking where everyone was since it’s not usually this slow. Glad people are out enjoying the sunshine.
Now, back to the post topic.
I think it is important not only to hypothesize about the reasons for this idiot’s opposition but the science, or at least, the presentation of science. First and foremost is the scare tactic that someday these girls will wake up and find they are sterile. HUH? He just seems to pull this idea right out of his christian ass.
Secondly he lists a long string of side effects. Most people don’t understand the science and legality of listing side effects, particularly for new medicines. If more than five percent (my recollection, it could be slightly more or less) of a test population report a particular side effect it must be reported. If less than this percentage, that is a statistically insignificant number, report a given side effect, it needn’t be reported. Many people will have allergic reactions or specific intolerance for or sensitivity to a drug or vaccination agent. Rarely are these reactions permanent or dangerous. Giving this list of POSSIBLE reactions without explanation and context is not only foolish and manipulative, but irresponsible. The only possible reason for doing so, as far as I can detect is to scare people and by so doing raise objections.
It is also noteworthy that Pope John Paul II wrote an entire anti-sex book that relied heavily on the cervical cancer/ virus link. It could very well be that denying this link by immunizing against this virus denies the argument from health against sex, which would further erode fundy war on sexuality.
I just wish the religious would fuck off. They’re ruining this country for the rest of us. Why can’t they go colonize some third-world country where the standard of living is just what they want. Why drag us down? Go find a place that’s already primitive and backward and live there.
Fundies are firmly convinced that the vaccine will cause promiscuity. Ignorance of this nature is invincible.
People who don’t want to be vaccinated, fine. They are only harming the rest of us indirectly, and we don’t have the right to inject them against their will.
People wanting to stop others from being vaccinated- oh, you all know where this is going. It is not as if it is an aphrodisiac being injected into people as part of some sinister plot, it just reduces one of the risks of having sex. Why, you’d think they wanted people to be afraid of having sex! Or even punished for it for some reason. How odd and awful of them.
It is sad that the majority rules. But what pisses me off, is that, even so that is true, no one mentions the second part of it. Majority rules, Minority rights. Does not matter how many Christians are in this country, they still have to respect us, but they don’t. Bastards!
Yeah, when I was in high school(that was this year), my peers were sexually active. Haha, they use to tease me because I am a virgin. But what makes it worse is that they are talking about god. It is very sickening indeed.
the vaccination, like most things, is a personal and voluntery choice not something that is decided for you. not by any doctor, nor government and definetly not by some god-fearing maniacs whod rather spend time on the knees with their head in the clouds than deal with whats really going on down here on earth.
all i can say is tough shit, its my choice and nothing you religious folk say will convince me otherwise.
now go away!
Erm…
to answer Stardust’s earlier query (#3)…
I’m STILL “Un-Raptured”
[but not un-ruptured?…
Say what?…don’t ask!]
Ah, yes, the self-appointed guardians of our genitalia. Ain’t it grand?
Ok so a lump of inanimate cells must be protected from everything at all costs but living breathing humans, especially women, should be left to die of whatever comes along because that’s gord’s will.
Have I got that right?
My mother is a high holy member of the local catholic mafia and thinks I’m missing the point.
I tell her that SHE is the one missing the point but she’s too busy chanting at a plastic statue of a tortured, bloody crime victim to listen.
This weekend is rather nice to be out and about. Maybe sharing the joy of freedom by setting off some fireworks or expressing your freedom FROM the Theocracy by fornicating or something. I’d hate to think of sitting around inside during the summer and blogging all day.
Oh yeah, be safe about it.
Sam Harris is especially eloquent at raking the god-botherers over the coals for this stance in Letter to a Christian Nation.
I was on Amazon awhile back and it looks as though some Xtian f*cktard has scribbled a “point by point ‘refutation’ of Harris’ Letter…”, no doubt the literary equivalent of “nya nya can’t hear you blah blah blah blah blah blah”
Glad to hear everyone else had a nice weekend weather-wise; mine was kind of rainy (but not bad; I got a lot of writing done on my fiction). I am not complaining, though; as long as we don’t get a hurricane I’m happy!
That’s the religious for you: respect my beliefs, no matter how nutty they may be, even if you don’t share them, and follow my rules anyway!
“…as long as we don’t get a hurricane I’m happy!”
Unlike Eve, I’m actually hoping (not praying) for one. A small one; Cat 2 at the largest. I haven’t had a good hurricane party since ‘99.
Getting back OT, the people who think that this will increase promiscuity in anyone are farting into a wind-tunnel.
OK, Jenner…I can handle a Cat 2…and I sure could use a party right now!
Back on topic too, I wonder if the xians who are so against this vaccine would oppose it so strenuously if the tables were turned, and HPV were proven to contribute to the development of testicular cancer? Would they be this upset about the idea of boys having “another excuse to be promiscuous?”
Eve
No they wouldnt accept it. Point taken. No way.The gutless cowards. Secretly and only secretly. Such assholes ony accept what they are told to that they have no cedibility.
^ True, jimmer; “practicing what they preach” they certainly do not.
OK, that came out Yoda-ish…
Ahh mastah you hav weturned.