(Update: Audrey’s comment inspired me to change the title.)
While this is a free country, and people can do whatever they want as long as it’s within our established laws, there has to be something mentally screwed up with women who want to keep popping out babies like a freakin’ rabbit! This woman in Arkansas just gave birth to her 17th child, and she says she wants MORE!
The Duggars have a family website promoting their bizarre family sideshow. The opening paragraph “About us” states:
Jim Bob & Michelle Duggar married July 21st, 1984. At that time, they chose to use the birth control pill. They thought, “We don’t want children right now. We can’t afford them. We want children in our timing, when we’re ready.” Four years later they decided to have their first child. Then, Michelle went back on the pill, but she conceived and had a miscarriage. At that point they talked with a Christian medical doctor and read the fine print in the contraceptives package. They found that while taking the pill you can get pregnant and then miscarry. They were grieved! They were Christians! They were pro-life! They realized that their selfish actions had taken the life of their child.
Selfish? Selfish because of the need to plan for the right time to have a child? How selfish is it to keep producing children in a world that is over-populated and resources are becoming more and more precious? To keep having children for no other reason but to keep reproducing is incredibly selfish and irresponsible.
Another point I have a more personal beef with is Mrs Duggar’s claim that birth control pills are somehow like abortion. And if that Xian doctor told her this, he should have his license revoked. How about the millions of women who DO use contraceptives, and don’t have any problems having children at all? How about the women who didn’t use birth control pills, like me, and had stillborn babies, miscarriages, and other complications even though they do all the right things? Again, this is just another example of the religious trying justify their own selfish desires and to give excuses for the stupid and irrational things they do and believe.
Now for some Monty Python…”Every sperm is sacred!”
There are far more disturbing things about these people besides just the number of children they have.
They’ve done some specials on Discovery Channel. JimBob was once a state rep for Arkansas. They built a 7000 sq/ft “compound” to house the brood bitch and her pups. They’ve declared it a “church” and so are tax exempt. They have a “buddy system” whereby once a child is weaned, it is passed on to an older “buddy kid” who is responsible for that child. The brood bitch nurses for about 6-8 months before the kid is passed off to the buddy. The short nursing time is so that brood bitch & the sperm machine can “prepare for another blessing” from Gord. They cook enormous meals to feed everybody, most of which are based on cream of crap soup and tater tots.
All this shite is on their website and in the DC specials. I’m so not making it up.
They are breeder freaks to the extreme. They refer to themselves as “quiverfull.” That is a real term that these kind of people use to express their desire to breed “as Gord allows.” They subscribe to the philosophy that Gord will determine their family size and will provide for them no matter how many children they have. It’s all about the glory of Gord, of course. Link to a better explanation here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull
I admit I’m fascinated with them, much the same way one would be fascinated with a train wreck. Deeply disturbing… yet, somehow, you can’t help but want to know “why?”
Audrey, it seems that the Duggar’s have figured out how to gain fame and wealth via their reproductive abilities. By having tons of kids, they have made a freak show that will attract media and public attention to themselves, which in turn makes lots and lots of money to keep buying those bags of chicken nuggets and tater tots to feed the herd.
That their home is tax exempt really irks me.
Interesting note in Wikipedia:
Hey! I like Tater Tots!
I bet when her uterus falls out, they’ll have it bronzed and displayed as a focal point in their fucking tax exempt *church*.
I can’t adequately express how irate that makes me, that their compound, erm, church, is tax free.
That, and the fact that there are so many unwanted children in the world, yet these idiots keep popping out more instead of adopting or fostering.
On second thought, maybe we don’t want anyone else’s kids in the hands of these people.
Oh! that’s just…. Oh oooooohhhhh!!!!
Why do I always read stuff like this when I’m eating spaghetti??
… That is too many children! Why would you want to have that many? How can you equally provide nourishment to them all. Man, let hope that none of her children wants to do the same thing as mom!. Imagine if all of them did it
. That is 289 more kids! Hell, if the reproduce like that, then they make their own little village of Duggars. The only thing that is worse than the scenario that I prescribe is, if someone else wants to do it. Someone please pass a law limiting the number of children someone has. 
The tax exempt thing for churches really needs to stop.
Myron, I proposed, some while back, that one would be allowed no more than two children “free” of tax penalties. Living child number Three would cost you half of your net worth. Number Four, another 50% of the remainder…and so on, until you’re flat broke. And no welfare! We’ll just take the kids and place them with families that can support and care for them.
It is not a Gord-given right to be fruitful. Ethical consideration for the whole planet should guide your actions - not selfishness and fecundity. Just because you have money does not mean you have more rights than another.
And if I was in charge, infertility treatments would be off the table! How fair is it to despise scientific progress but use it to have children if, in the words of some, Gord made you infertile for a reason!
Hell, if the reproduce like that, then they make their own little village of Duggars.
Myron, maybe that is what they want!
The tax exempt thing for churches really needs to stop.
Robguy, Yes, indeed it does. I look at the property churches sit on in our area and it sickens me. Most of these churches are empty most of the week. I have a 2,000 sq ft house (including the basement) and pay nearly $6,000 a year in taxes for a 75 x 125 ft lot while these mythology temples that are sitting on acres of valuable land don’t have to pay a cent. And then I read about these freaks who are popping out babies for profit have a 7,000 sq ft estate that is tax exempt. It really burns me up.
I’m with Bob Barker. “Be kind to animals. Spay and neuter your pets and your local fucktard, quiverfull breeding pair. I’ve heard that a rubber band wrapped snugly at the base of the scrotum will result, eventually, in the nuts falling off. As for Michelle…hmm, a stout needle and a rawhide bootlace ought to do the trick. Conversely, we could encourage it while containing them to breeding amongst themselves. 289 kids, sure, but at least a handful ought to be cut out for Ringling Bros. or Ned Beatty’s next sex scene.
Breeding isn’t a right. It’s a privilege. You have to license a family pet but any idjit can have a baby.
Why doesn’t someone tell her that it’s a vagina not a damn clown car!
Why doesn’t someone tell her that it’s a vagina not a damn clown car!
Haha, a clown car. Is this normal for a family in Mexico? I know they have a lot children too! Mexico has a population of 108,700,891! Maybe Michelle Duggar would had been better if she was turtle. Then she can lay all the eggs she wants.
Tax exempt? We should tax them with a bullshit tax. If they bullshit, they pay. That is one way to get the America’s economy out of the red and into the black! Because that all they do:Bullshit all the time.
If you check the Discovery Health Channel, you’ll see that there will be yet another Duggar family special which will apparently include some footage of latest kid at just a few minutes old. So, you see… the fact that they’re in the news now is just a sneak preview of the new “film.”
Man, they sure know how to pimp those kiddies, don’t they?
Man, they must fill up a diaper genie at least once a day!
Wow…And how complicit is the Discovery Channel for essentially endorsing…even promoting such outright moronic selfishness. Again…it’s the Corporate ‘Ostriches’; with their brainwashed heads buried securely in the sand (or up their asses?).
I think they should have titled their piece, something like:
“Meet the Duggars; and all their brainwashed little Buggers!”
I know…probably a wee bit too long.
Perhaps a just a smidgen closer?:
“The Duggars fuckers’ Social Mugger Buggers!”
OK…I guess not!
The religious tax exempt outrage has always been a huge pet peeve of mine.
Stardust hit the nail with the same points I’ve thought of for a long time; which also relates to the Church ‘Tithing Racket’…the old 10% suggested rule for supporting the bonehead pastors. Take an average Church congregation; and YOU do the math. All for a weekly dose of endlessly repeated, preprogrammed, Cosmological bullshit!
Yeah…The tradition of allowing Churches to hold strategically located, prime property in every town in America (and the world?)…tax free. It’s ALWAYS been an outrageous duping of the public.
Has anyone, by the way, ever seen one of these brainwashed preacher racketeers living in a shabby house…or ‘heaven’ forfend…an APARTMENT? And these Jeebus dupes would absolutely NEVER be seen driving a old ‘beater’ car. WHOA!
Tangentially?…
I suppose many of you have seen the latest AP Minneapolis Prayer bullshit story [Comcast print format]:
http://www.comcast.net/includes/article/print.jsp?fn=/data/news/html//2007/08/05/732193.html
Or alternatively; here [AP]:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRIDGE_COLLAPSE_MEMORIALS?
SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-08-05-21-09-10
That type of story always reminds me of the “God is imaginary” Site’ prayer shtick:
http://godisimaginary.com/
But then the old “You can lead a horse to water…” routine flashes in my mind.
As if more proof was needed that these folks are whack jobs, what’s with the naming scheme?
(from their site)
“they have been blessed with 16 children, (10 boys and 6 girls) Joshua, Jana & John-David (twins), Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Joy-Anna, Jedidiah & Jeremiah (twins), Jason, James, Justin, Jackson, Johannah (& Jennifer due July 28, 2007).”
The father man has such a huge ego that he had to have every last one of his brood have a name that started with the same letter as his?!?
What is it Stewie Griffin said? “Is there any tread left on the tire or is it like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.”
Chuck,
That’s too funny. That could be a new tongue twister.
As for this family, how exactly to they qualify for tax-exempt status? Just because they have a shitload of kids?
I’ve known/know people from large Catholic families, and once worked with a proud father of one. Large to me is anything over 3 kids but my standard here is over 10.
My reading of such families suggest the kids go separate ways once adult, and have one or no kids. The older families (people I knew that were much older) have a lot of priests and nuns in the family ranks. Younger generation ones (born afet 1940) are married, free and loving it, and mostly a-religious (holiday religion). Esssentially the kids had quirks but all withing normal range for the times involved.
I don’t know .. for general environment it’s a bad thing, if state supported it’s a bad thing (especially if it becomes tax-exempt religious - eeerrrr me mad). And if the family is because of it neglectful or abusive (passively or overtly) it’s dispicable, and if it’s done as religious calling it’s down-right insane. But otherwise, while I think it is weird to the max, I think is their right as free people.
That is as long as they properly care for and nurture their children, and do so withOUT some motivation to form their own personal gawd army or something like that.
Also they (whoever chooses this course) must essentially do it through their own efforts without state support (no more overall $$ than any family within one stddev would get at least).
However, these particular people are insane and/or scammers. And where are my rights to live under a constitution that means something? isn’t give a tax break to them the US gov establishing a religion?!?!? What is the effectual difference?!?!? All this is sickening in this case to me.
LOL - I am not uneducated and inarticulate though my typing mistakes and proof-reading scream otherwise!! Sorry - old age happens!
If every sperm really were sacred, how do you square that with the fact that even in the event of a successful conception, something of the order of 249 999 999 sperm end up wasted?
“brood bitch & the sperm machine”
I love it!!! Excellent descriptives!!!
“brood bitch & the sperm machine”
I love it!!! Excellent descriptives!!!
Actually, it sounds like arch-enemies of the Justice League or something…
“Look out, Batman! It’s Brood Bitch and the Sperm Machine!”
“I know, Robin. They’ll stop at nothing to terrorize Gotham!”
Can only imagine what kind of vehicle they’d use: maybe some huge uterus with all the firepower coming out of the fallopian tubes…
How the hell would you support 17 children financially? And how would you give each of your children the guidance and attention they deserve when there are that damn many?
And on to another rant: Notice how many Christians think birth control is wrong, but they have no problem with fertility drugs. With birth control you’re supposedly screwing up God’s plan, even though if God was so dead-set on you having a baby that he could surely work through that little obstacle. But don’t fertility drugs do the same thing? I mean maybe you can’t get pregnant because God doesn’t want you to have a kid, so fertility drugs fuck up God’s plan, too! Right?
The following is what got me: “They have a ‘buddy system’ whereby once a child is weaned, it is passed on to an older ‘buddy kid’ who is responsible for that child. The brood bitch nurses for about 6-8 months before the kid is passed off to the buddy.”
In other words, they’re forcing their older children to parent their younger siblings. Fuck their childhood, prepubescence, and adolescence; whether they want to or not, they’re mothers and fathers at whatever age their selfish, selfish master parents decide they want to make use of them that way. These kids didn’t ask for more brothers and sisters, and they certainly didn’t choose to become ipso-facto parents!
As an individual with a “parenting child” personality, I subjected myself to intense pressure and stress because I felt that I had to “take care” of everyone around me, not just my siblings but my parents as well. My mom and dad also unsuspectingly fed into this by telling me to “watch your sister” or “you’re in charge,” even when I was at a party. It took self-help and some therapy for me to identify this trait in myself and learn to “control” it; until I did, I was a joyless, stressed-out perfectionist who would obsess for hours over things and people for which I really had no responsibility.
This deliberate, flagrant, megalomaniacal use and abuse of their own children makes me sick. Hopefully these kids will run for their lives as soon as they gain some independence and are able to put some distance between them and this horrible couple. Removing yourself physically from proximity does help.
Eve, I was all of those things, as well.
As the oldest of six, I think I was always “Mom, junior grade”. Helper, watcher, driver (she never had a license); I even took over check-writing/bill-paying when I was sixteen - my dad just signed the checks (again, she never was allowed to manage money!).
After I was married and while I was pregnant with my first, she was diagnosed with MS. And somehow, she and I developed the dynamic that I was the mother and she was the daughter. So “Mom, junior grade” became “Mom, senior grade” and she became my dependent child. My husband would come home from work: “Hi, hon! I’m home! Hmm, no wife? Ahh, at Mom’s, I’m sure.” It was a wonder my marriage didn’t end right there.
I think that was the secret reason he accepted a job that took us far enough away that I would no longer be at her beck and call…and it worked. I broke the chain.
It’s the primary reason I a) only had two children, b) support reproductive choice, c) hate overpopulation, and d) find “breeders” to be despicably selfish.
I DON’T think breeding is a “right”. I DON’T think there is anything inherently evil about limiting family sizes. I DON’T think taxing family size is demonic or undemocratic.
You pay to play!
They appear to be misinforming people about birth control pills as well. I don’t know of any evidence that taking birth-control pills while pregnant leads to miscarriage or birth-defects. According to the Mayo clinic website http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/birth-control-pill/WO00098 and my wife (a physician) this is a myth that was founded on past fears that turned out to be untrue.
There was probably some other reason that she miscarried and she probably got pregnant in the first place because she didn’t take the pills properly (missed doses, antibiotics…)
When we were growing up, my parents were friends with neighbors down the street from us who were Catholic and had one kid after another despite living in a tiny two-bedroom home. When my parents first met them, this couple had three kids, and they had a kid every year for the next 10 years! Finally the woman had to have a hysterectomy, her uterus just gave out. The father died when he was in his early 40s from heart failure, and there had been a bit of joking that he wore himself out.
They did like the Duggars where the older kids took care of the younger kids. The older kids even did laundry, went to school parent/teacher conferences. They rarely went to the doctor and relied on gypsy-like home remedies. They ate spaghetti almost every night, oatmeal for breakfast, and rice pudding for a treat that was made in a large kettle. I remember trying some one time and feeling sorry that is what they had to eat and that they were so poor. They could only afford to get their kids one little junk toy each for Christmas. My parents and others in the neighborhood used to get each kid a toy so they would have more stuff and they used to give them used clothes and bring them food and snacks throughout the year. My mother would take a cake over once in awhile and those kids’s eyes would open so wide and they would gather around so excitedly. Though we lived in the same lower-class neighborhood, we felt rich in comparison.
The older ones resented having so much responsibility caring for their siblings that they vowed never to have kids of their own. All of the kids moved far away from their mom and are scattered all over the country. The largest number of kids any of them have had is four, the five oldest kids had one or no kids. The youngest siblings ended up having problems adjusting and a couple went to jail. Only the oldest ones seem to have done well in life.
Talking about fertility drugs, I always love it when gawd-fearing couples take fertility drugs and have multiples. Like, sextuplets or whatever and then you see a sound bite of them saying, “Gawd blessed us so much. It’s through gawd’s love and blessings we were able to have so many children at once.”
Ummmm…NOOOO. It’s through the wonders of modern science that you were able to take fertility drugs. The instances of multiples has increased ridiculously in modern times. This is not gawd giving women tons of babies at once, it’s modern science not only giving women that many babies, but then delivering them through C-section (also science) and keeping them alive in incubators, because most of them would not live on their own (again…science.)
But, you know, it’s all gawd’s doing…
Ugh.
Another proof — if one were needed — that their God is as moronic as they are.
And I don’t think receiving welfare money is a right because you have so many kids.
Talking about fertility drugs, I always love it when gawd-fearing couples take fertility drugs and have multiples. Like, sextuplets or whatever and then you see a sound bite of them saying, “Gawd blessed us so much. It’s through gawd’s love and blessings we were able to have so many children at once.”
Ohhhh… don’t get me started on those damned McCaughey Septuplets! I live in Iowa, quite near to where those poor kids were born. It was disgusting. The father of course claimed, “God wanted us to have those kids!”
Then they got a brand new million dollar home, a new van, a lifetime supply of diapers and daily child care- all free of charge.
Oh yeah, and did I mention a few of them have cerebral palsy and can’t walk? You’d have problems too if you weighed about 2 pounds at birth.
My mother was the oldest of nine kids. She had to help raise all of her brothers and sisters.
When she got married, she had me. That was it. As she put it, “I ain’t raisin’ no more damn children. I did my time already!”
With any luck, these kids may just say the exact same thing when they grow up.
(And for the record, I really don’t want any kids. I do not have the patience for them at all.)
The only thing that could make this better would be if Michelle had all seventeen rugrats at once, complete with seventeen teats dotting her distended, corpse-pale belly* and little pink, mewling infants fighting for their turn at the trough- not to mention the handy, dandy, taciturn, and mustachioed, British country vet with his full-sleeve, rubber gloved arm feeling around inside her for number eighteen.
For some reason, I’m craving bacon…
…ugh
. This is sickening. These retards are like everyone else. Because they cannot comprehend modern science, they have give credit to something else. I think Michelle’s kids are too brainwash to think of not having kids. It is the loud one that they want to shut up. Therefore, if one of them speaks out, he or she would be scoff at for having critical thinking.
What is up with the naming process? Who the hell names all of their kids after the letter J and names that came from the bible.
This kind of article supports my belief that Mike Judges film “Idiocracy” was not really a comedy (that is really funny, non-the less, if there is weed thrown into the mix), but rather an incisive, prescient cautionary tale. If any of you Gifsters out there have not seen this film, it’s worth renting, simply for the parallel to this story.
Reminds me of the Jackoffasaur’s from southpark. I wonder how far she can squirt one out?
My favorite Duggars photoshop.
http://www.myconfinedspace.com/watermark.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2006/06/clowncar.jpg
And a great Groucho moment:
On his show he asked a woman why she and her husband had 11 children. “I just love my husband so much” she replied.
“Well, I love my cigar” said Groucho,”but I take it out of my mouth once in awhile.”
On his show he asked a woman why she and her husband had 11 children. “I just love my husband so much” she replied.
“Well, I love my cigar” said Groucho,”but I take it out of my mouth once in awhile.”
ROTFLMAO!! OMFSM!
Revenant: And I don’t think receiving welfare money is a right because you have so many kids.
I agree.
Naomi, Weasel, an aunt of mine was one of the youngest of a family of at least ten. When she married my uncle, she had two daughters, the first a couple of years after the wedding, the second a couple of years after the first, both pretty much completely planned - and had her tubes cut (not tied, cut) after giving birth to the second.
She was still a very young woman (maybe barely 30 if I recall correctly) and got heavily criticized by our catholic society. Such arguments as what if your husband (older than she) dies; you marry again; and your second husband wants his own children were flung at her on a regular basis. How irresponsible of you to interfere with your god-given fertility!
Her response was that she grew up watching her mother age five years every year with a baby at her breast; a second one dandled on her hip; and two or three clinging to her skirts - seemingly all the time. She watched this woman literally fade until she looked 60 when she turned 40, and swore to herself that she would never endure the same fate.
Two children, total, was all she ever wanted to give birth to and two children was all she had, and as she tells it, she’s never regretted her decision a single instant of her life so far. Her youthful sterilization finally stopped being news and people forgot about it when they moved on to the next “scandal,” and now birth control and even more permanent forms like tubal ligation are par for the course in the Dominican Republic.
I was looking for a link showing the average # of children based on education level but I was outsmarted by Google and that alone pisses me off.
If I remember correctly then as your education increases the # of average children decreases. Therefore, the opposite must also be true. Using that theory, then we are forced to postulate that these people have less education then their newborn.
Thank you, tnskeptic. Now I have this lovely image of a women with her legs spread apart with big ass red floppy shoes sticking out.
When in the first and second grade, we lived out in the country of northwestern Virginia. My dad was trying to build a house while we lived in a trailer (hey! We were trailer trash!).
Kids I played with actually lived a few miles away in an old Civil War era house. They had 15 kids. And I’ll bet every one of them grew up as redneck-drunk-pregnant-by-13-racist-inbred-assholes. I don’t really know if they were religious, can only guess they were. I was too young to care about such things.
But, as gord willed, the house frame blew down one very windy April, and my dad gave up on trying to start over again. So we moved to Manassas, VA, closer to DC, and only marginally less inbred.
Netflix must have sent the brood bitch “Cheaper by the Dozen” instead of “Idiocracy”, although I’m not sure she would’ve understood the message of the latter even if she had seen it.
Spirula, can I use that picture. Its is very funny.
Myron,
It is not mine. Can’t say who did it.
(err…as in I don’t know who generated it)
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