Whackadoo Ken Ham speaks at prayer breakfast at Pentagon
19 June 2008 by Stardust
I found this over at Pharyngula today. It makes me a bit queasy that the guys with the big guns invited such a big nutjob to speak at their prayer breakfast. During his speech, Ham starts talking about life on other planets and doesn’t think there is any based on the following “logic” (or lack, thereof).
The real world is the biblical world–a universe designed by God with the Earth at the spiritual focal point, not an evolutionary universe teeming with life. … Extraterrestrial life is an evolutionary concept; it does not comport with the biblical teachings of the uniqueness of the Earth and the distinct spiritual position of human beings.
So there you have it again, it’s written in their ancient mythology book, so it must be true.
Ham continues:
Jesus remains the “God man,” as he is our Savior. Jesus did not become a “Martian” or a “Klingon” or some other being—he became a human (as God).
So, it wouldn’t make any sense for there to be intelligent beings like us on other planets—they would be suffering from the effects of sin but can’t have salvation, as only descendants of Adam can be saved.
One day the whole universe will be wound up—the judgment by fire—and there will be a New Heavens and Earth. I always say that there can’t be intelligent life like us on other planets—the Bible does not say there is or is not animal or plant life on other planets—but I highly suspect not
Ok, where are my antacids? 
19 June 2008, on 11:19 am
Found this over at Salon who got it from Jesus General
19 June 2008, on 11:21 am
Yes…I must check my pocket supply of chewable antacids.
Anyone care for some roast Ham?
[I love some of the comments after the article.]
19 June 2008, on 11:36 am
“So, it wouldnt make any sense for there to be intelligent beings like us on other planetsthey would be suffering from the effects of sin but cant have salvation, as only descendants of Adam can be saved.”
Wait, how does that logically follow? Granted, I’m not up on my Bibbley, but if there were a separate species on a different planet that God created, wouldn’t they have started out just like Adam and Eve – innocent and ignorant? Why would they be effected by Adam’s sin? For all we know, they’d still be in their own little garden of Eden, wearing banana leaves and frolicking with animals, because they weren’t so stupid as to eat the damn fruit.
Ah, fuck it. Trying to apply logic to that bundle of anti-sense is futile.
19 June 2008, on 11:54 am
The scariest part of this whole travesty is that this ignorant lunatic was INVITED to the Pentagon. Prudence dictates that both the reverand AND the schmuck who invited him should be prevented from reproducing.
19 June 2008, on 12:21 pm
Ken, there’s a reason Gene Roddenberry left religion out of Star Trek – it doesn’t make any gorram sense.
19 June 2008, on 12:32 pm
Stogoe, the original Star Trek did have a Jesus reference. It was the one with the planet that had a Roman Empire culture with 20th century technology. The persecuted people were called “Children of the Sun” until the end, when Kirk et al realizes that they really mean “Children of the Son”.
As for Ham’s remarks, there is nothing like planet Earth being one small planet around one small star in a galaxy filled with millions of planets and stars in a universe filled with millions of galaxies each containing their own collection of millions of planets and stars to highlight how planet Earth represents some “spritual focal point.” Wow, that was quite a run on sentence!
19 June 2008, on 1:53 pm
Critical Analysis of Ken Ham’s Do Animals Evolve?
From: ExtantDodo
Gawd, he has such a monkey face!
19 June 2008, on 1:55 pm
Remember when Jerusalem was consider the center of the Earth? Or when the Earth was considered the center of the solar system?
Each was based on the Bible, therefore on the so called “word of gawd.”
I wonder why he didn’t bring that up.
Oh right, they were both proven WRONG! hundreds of years ago.
19 June 2008, on 2:01 pm
Ken Ham is a ASSHAT and misleading so many kids. This is criminal.
19 June 2008, on 2:37 pm
If it weren’t so pathetically sad it would be hilarious.
Gosh golly gee fellows it sure is good to know that there are people who can read a book of mutilated morality fables from a long dead society and not only be able to tell us what’s in the mind of the great imaginary sky daddy but the make up of the entire universe as well. He must be quite a clever fellow. What Homer Simpson would call “S-M-R-T”
Will kenny be filling us in on why looking up at the sky without thinking about jebus is a mortal sin next? I can hardly wait.
This is what kenny brings to my mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rac4mwJ4goY
19 June 2008, on 2:40 pm
Forgive the double post but I have a PS:
I guess no one should mention this to kenny either.
19 June 2008, on 4:00 pm
Gawdammit, we”re special! And if we ain’t special, then we ain’t playing! And I told ya a hunnerd thousand gawdamn times that it’s Jesus Horsestm what we rode back in the Garden before Eve went and let that gawdamn phallic snake- which had the audacity to be longer and of significantly more girth than her man Adam’s Vienna Sausage- all up in sin in her and all the sudden them docile saurian beasts of
bourbonburden done grew teeth and horns and terrible claws and almost human voices with which they taunted us- oh, how they taunted us- and thankee Jeebus even though he weren’t around yet back then but you know he knew and watched over us and helped us find them little hidey holes that them Tyrantosauruses couldn’t get to us in especially with them intelligently designed- for us- tiny little forearms. But they was a pestilence upon us, a regular Four Ex-Horses of the Apocalypse, which it wasn’t time for yet because Jeebus was fashionably late and like it says in the Book of Carl- which predates Genesis and would be really nice to have around cause it explains all them whackadoodle sciencey questions that make my brain hurt:“1 And, yay!, did the Mackest of the Mack Daddies, the Universally Embiggened, Jay Hoover- 2which was only to become the more recognizable “Jehovah” in those indecipherable Brooklyn accents of the Israelites, 3I mean, yay!, did He tighten his Van Allen Belt and reach out to the Oort cloud and pluck him up a good stone for throwing, with nice rounded edges and a good fit amidst the Giant Right Palm and her Five Sausagelike- 4if sausage were measured in light seconds- Sisters.
5And, yay!, did he expectorate a Loogie of Plenty, composed of petrified wood and sedimentary stone casts of trilobites and whatnot, 6and rub it into the suddenly porous Stone of Iron, Nickel, and Iridium.
7Using the same windup as He would later use to make the forests of Tunguska flinch, 8His Gaylord Perryness threw a spitter across the galaxy into the Chicxulub Strike Zone and knocked the Dinosaurs in like ducks on a pond, 9maintaining10 His Immaculate E.R.A., His human friends safe and warm in 11His Bag of Sunflower Seeds tucked away in His Back Pocket.
12And, lo, did He drop His Drawers and make Pure Water all over the Globe, 13focusing his Mighty Stream primarily on what would become Arizona one day and 14His Favorite Spot called the Marianas- and, Yay!, was it a Trench of a sudden.”
And if that don’t explain everything to them evildoing sciencey types, well, me and Ken’ll just keep pointing us to his joint down in KY- the Jelly State.
19 June 2008, on 10:16 pm
“YIKES” to the nth power!
Is the following YouTube, perhaps, exactly where Science…in this case, Medicine…is headed; after enough time passes under Ken Ham’s Creationist influence?…
[Scene: Another, future, Pentagon prayer breakfast?...
the Keynote speaker (using a megaphone, and pointing in the wrong direction)]:
“Let’s look in at the current graduating class of the…
“Flintstone Creationist School of Medicine”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEkT5uspE3c&feature=related
[Yeah...Kudos, of course, to the ever-wise pseudo-loonies..and possibly even Super-Prophetic(?)...Python crew!]
20 June 2008, on 12:01 am
Hmmm, that doesn’t square with this: Christian Theologians Prepare for Extraterrestrial Life
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Story?id=5065245&page=2
And then I thought of Robert Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land. As I read the extended story line on Wikipedia, I realized that reading that book had led me one more step away from belief. Thanks, Mr. Heinlein!
20 June 2008, on 4:58 pm
To Ken Ham from lolcat: syunss – yoo is dooing it rong. I can haz ham?
Besides, what the fuck right does the Pentagon have to be holding prayer anythings on government property and government time with government officials present? Separation of church and state, anyone? (Yeah, I do realize it’s probably a tradition that’s part of the unwritten, unspoken “culture” there – and Ham for breakfast is pretty funny when you think about it that way…but still: did those military guys actually listen to him with a straight face?!)
24 June 2008, on 11:23 am
I don’t know why you’re surprised, all the various “prayer breakfasts” are nothing but meetings of the Family, a hybrid Neo-Nazi/Christian cult.
Read Jeff Sharlet’s book on this organization, and you’ll understand why Ham was invited…
24 June 2008, on 8:22 pm
^ Is the Family that same woo-ey group Hillary’s attached to?