“Tooling it up” for Sarah Palin

12 September 2008 by Stardust

Campbell Brown interviews Tucker Bounds on Sarah Palin’s national security experience and Tucker just keeps evading her questions which is pretty much how her supporters respond when it comes to her lack of experience. Palin keeps spouting off about her experience as “commander and chief” of Alaska’s National Guard and Tucker brings it up too in this interview with Campbell, but he never does state even one order she has given to the Alaska National Guard in times of crisis since she has been governor.

As we reflect on the incidents which happened on 9-11-2001, I hope that voters will really think about who they are going to entrust with our national security but my cynicism tells me that the evangelicals will blindly vote for their party of God candidates once again just because they have the same fundamentalist god beliefs, or that they believe it will expedite the end-of-times and the great Armageddon or whatever. How can people believe this is the greatest nation in the western world when more than half of our population are morons?

And then this one:

Sarah Palin says the war is from God and it’s gods plan

Sarah Palin loves Jeezus—”the real deal” believer

The Huffington Post reported:

“Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.”

“‘Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending out on a task that is from God,’ she exhorted the congregants. ‘That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.’”

“Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin’s foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska’s governor asked the audience to pray for another matter — a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. ‘I think God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that,’ she said.”

This video is from HuffingtonPost.com, broadcast September 2, 2008.

And we were worried about McCain choosing FHuckabee. :roll:

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32 comments to ““Tooling it up” for Sarah Palin”

  1. Travdawg:

    This is fucked up, we’re so screwed if McCain gets elected. The likelihood of McCain having a stroke is pretty high especially at his age, assuming the Presidency is a stressful job. But I wonder sometimes how much work the President actually does… but anyway when he strokes out on the job and then Palin takes over as President, we’re done for! Pentecostals are like children with really big imaginations, erm, mental illnesses! They have no place running our country.

    I don’t think Obama getting elected is going to help our situation either. Whatever, I’m just venting, none of these ideas are new or haven’t been said before. But after watching that video, it reminded me of the frightening churchies that I used to associate with, and after being god-free for a few years now, I am more than ever concerned with the fate of humanity.

    All I want to do with my life is, get educated as possible, hang out in the woods with my girl, and play the mandolin. Which I will do as long as DC doesn’t get turned into a parking lot!

    Ahhhhhhh!!!! I am freaking out after watching these videos!!!

  2. Stardust:

    Travdawg, I have grim feelings about this election. With all the highly intelligent and reasonable options, this is who it comes down to? How did we manage to slip back into the pit of such fundamentalism? This is what Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens are talking about. The moderate Christians are even more dangerous than the evangelicals because they allow this to happen because after all, they all believe in the same sky boss. We can only hope that the moderates keep demanding questions to be answered and when they keep getting blown off and vague answers they will choose the “lesser of two evils”. I have not been enthused about Obama all along and his pandering to the delusional fundies, but if we have to choose one or the other I would be a bit more comfortable about what Obama’s god tells him than Palin’s god.

    And though she is only the VP candidate, like you say, there is a good chance she would end up being president and that is incredibly frightening to me. And if she found herself as president we can be terrified that she would choose another fundie as her….Fuckabee???

  3. ChuckA:

    ^ “The moderate Christians are even more dangerous than the evangelicals because they allow this to happen because after all, they all believe in the same sky boss.”
    Exactly, Stardust.

    The totally irrational implications of the believers’ “All powerful Sky-Daddy” are well know to all of us.
    “Hey…if there’s a “Plan”; then the current Hurricane Ike, and all the other planetary items…like tsunamis, etc…must be a part of it too, right? As Joy Behar quipped last Monday on Larry King regarding the same idea…(something like): “That’s kind of mean, isn’t it?”
    [Which Larry King got a chuckle out of! I'm looking for that segment on YouTube, by the way.]
    In other words, “they can’t have it both ways”. “He”…can’t be left off the hook if he’s truly in control…yada, yada. Of course, because of their lack of critical…they can’t get that!

    To my real point here…
    This gun toting, totally anti-choice etc, Mooseburger chomper is REALLY a total whack-job; in the same league…or perhaps even a notch beyond…Robertson, Dobson, Hagee and the whole slew of other well known Xtian Right nut cases.
    After watching her whole Wasilla Church “Sermon”, it’s obvious that the her Repiglican “handlers” coached her to mask the

    “God’s Plan” bullshit by referencing the old ( right on the fringe) Lincoln quote.
    She’ll obviously say ANYTHING which will make it look like she’s more ‘mainstream’.
    To think that if the Rethuglican ticket gets elected; she’d be a heartbeat…or a melanoma…away from the Presidency of this country is truly frightening. And we think we’ve been the laughing stock of the rest of the World because of Dubya! HA!
    I think the Europeans are all somewhat shaking in their boots right now, waiting to see if there are enough, foolish, totally delusional dummies in the “U.S. of Jesus” ready to actually elect this idiot!
    Yikes, indeed!
    Shame on McLame for his obvious pandering to the absolute lowest common mental denominator!

    I did a lot of YouTube research myself on this totally delusional idiot blabber mouth. For anyone who hasn’t seen her complete Church blather, here it is in two parts. [More later?]

    “Sarah Palin & the Wasilla Assembly of God 1 of 2″
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4LjsfWbZLA&feature=related

    “Sarah Palin & the Wasilla Assembly of God 2 of 2″
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQq4b5IQhq8&feature=related

  4. ChuckA:

    Here’s another one; which includes a rather startling look into the Church’s proclaimed agenda, via its own homegrown video production…

    “Sarah Palin Wasilla Church Has Kooky Prophecy Sessions”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VtF7Ypr1hY&feature=related

  5. ChuckA:

    Hmmm…Sarah Palin a flip-flopper?…
    [What a mind boggling, totally opportunistic, bubble-head!]
    “SARAH PALIN PRAISES BARACK OBAMA!!!…”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws4Tl3vHryQ

    I couldn’t find that,referred to (above), Joy Behar clip…
    at least…YET!
    OK…Enough already with my contribution shtick!

  6. democommie:

    The Daily Show interviewed delegates at the RNC; they also interviewed an exotic dancer. She had her shit much more together than any of the Bushcoholics.

  7. Stardust:

    Seems that Gramps McLame found someone to take over the spotlight for him so he could go back to his rocking chair and let the focus be on her instead of him while she is being coached by the GOP in the fine art of bullshit propaganda and question evading.

  8. Travdawg:

    I love it when xians say “Oh well this or this is gawd’s plan.” “Such and such is Gods plan.”

    Then when you ask them about it, some where in their rebuttal always includes ,”Well I’m not saying that I or anyone can actually know what gawd is thinking…” etc. etc.

    You seemed pretty sure of gawds plan when you said, “This is gawds plan” wtf?

    I’ve seen the same conversation as the ABC news video over and over again… Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!

  9. ChuckA:

    And then there’s the whole…
    Voting machine issue! Ala, of course, the Repiglican owned(?) Diebold, and other, voting machines; hacker vulnerable, with no paper receipts!
    Will it be another “hanging chad” (or maybe…hanging from our electronic balls…(or…pussies? :roll: ) style election, ala the 2000 “Recount” fiasco model? In other words…
    ‘THEY’ decide!
    I’d better stop writing all this stuff; I’m getting too depressed!
    “Somebody…PLEEEEEZE…’Hep’ me!” :shock:

  10. ChuckA:

    Meanwhile (for even more masochism?)…the latest medieval style bullshit from the head honcho Vatican delusional…or the “Ministry of Silly Hats”?:
    “Pope speaks to Muslims, others about faith”:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080912/ap_on_re_eu/france_pope

  11. Stardust:

    Then when you ask them about it, some where in their rebuttal always includes ,”Well I’m not saying that I or anyone can actually know what gawd is thinking…” etc. etc.

    Yeah, amazing isn’t it that they are so certain this or that is “gawd’s plan” but when you get into specifics they say “oh, I can’t presume to know what god is thinking or to speak for him”. It just shows how utterly stupid these people are.

  12. Stardust:

    “Somebody…PLEEEEEZE…’Hep’ me!” :shock:

    Ok Chuck, take some long, deep breaths and try to calm down or your blood pressure will spike.

    I refuse to turn on television any more today. It’s bad enough reading about this election bullshit online.

  13. Stardust:

    Check out this video that Oliver left for me over at my personal blog. This girl could be Sarah Palin herself…love it when she is talking about herself and says “I have five children” looks puzzled and continues “six children . . . no five children.” Great stuff!

    My Damn Channel

  14. Julie:

    Fuck me, but listening to her speak, she sounds so patronizing. “Charlie this” and “Charlie that”. She acts like she’s speaking to an 8-year-old. I can only imagine how a foreign ambassador would respond to that level of condescension.

  15. Stardust:

    Check this out:

    Alaska Women: Good economic status, but second highest suicide rate

    A new report released at the University of Alaska Anchorage shows Alaska women doing fairly well economically, with among the highest median earnings in the country and among the lowest poverty rates.

    Alaska women have higher median earnings than women in 44 other states and have one of the four lowest poverty rates, right behind Minnesota, Maryland, and New Hampshire and tied with Connecticut and Delaware.

    Women in Alaska have one of the seven highest rates of jobs in management or professional jobs, and are among the hardest working in the U.S., with labor force participation rates much higher than all but six states, according to The Status of Women in Alaska, written by the Institute for Women’s Policy Research.

    Despite this, a woman in Alaska makes less than 80 cents for every dollar a man makes, and the disparities are more pronounced for women of color: Native American women make only 66 cents for every dollar a white man makes, African American women 61 cents, Hispanic women 59 cents, and Asian American women only 54 cents.

    Alaska also ranks in the bottom half of the states for women’s health and well-being. It is the 7th worst state for women’s death rates from lung cancer and is second only to Nevada for death by suicide among women.

    The suicide death rate is more than twice as high as in 18 other states. By many other measures, Alaska women’s health is good, with a lower heart disease death rate than all but six other states, a lower breast cancer death rate than all but five other states, one of the seven lowest AIDS rates in the U.S. and the second fewest cases of diabetes.

    “Modest gains made by Alaska’s women in earnings and health do not compensate for lacks in health insurance coverage, high suicide rates among women, and the wage gap between men and women, particularly women of color,” according to Dr. Shelley Theno, Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Alaska Anchorage’s Kenai Peninsula College.

    “Nor do national data on health take into account the high rates of sexual violence experienced by Alaska women, particularly Alaska Native women,” Theno adds.

    Alaska is in the bottom third of states for health insurance coverage: 18 percent of women in the state are unprotected. Even for women with insurance, the state government fails to require insurance companies to cover contraception or infertility treatments, important resources in women’s reproductive health.

    Take time to read the whole article and then tell me why any woman would want to vote for Palin.

  16. Stardust:

    Fuck me, but listening to her speak, she sounds so patronizing. “Charlie this” and “Charlie that”. She acts like she’s speaking to an 8-year-old. I can only imagine how a foreign ambassador would respond to that level of condescension.

    Julie, I noticed that same thing. It’s irritating to listen to her. It’s like she is on happy pills or is she just “high on Jeebus”? And it will be quite embarrassing to have to converse with her at any length and I would hope they would not believe that she is representative of all American women.

  17. AtheistUnderMask:

    You know what else I love about the “gawd’s plan” people? Whenever you bring up the problem of evil they will contradict themselves and use the free will reason.

    So either gawd has a plan, or else free will is more powerful than gawd. Which is it?

  18. Sarah:

    I am so goddamed sick of hearing about Sarah Palin.

    I sick of hearing about how she’d be the woman as VP.

    I’m tired of hearing about how much she’d done for Alaska and how much they just looooove her over there.

    I loathe to hear her spout again and again about how Americans will be safe under watch.

    Lately, I’ve been sick of hearing her say we are being directed by the lord to this. (Didn’t work so well for the last guy who did that.)

    But mostly, I am sick and tired of hearing about her fucking kids! Especially the pregant one. So what she slipped up and mad a mistake (who knows getting knocked up might have not been a mistake) but the whole county does not need to make a big a damn deal about this poor girl.

    And I’m also sick of hearing about the one with with Down’s Syndrom, whom she named Trig. At least give the little guy a decent name. The fact that this kid is retarded is not a good thing, but the pro-lifers think is wonderful that she decided not to abort. She selfishly had a child after aged 40 (which every doctor will tell you is a bad idea) and who’s gonna suffer more from this? Certainly not Sarah. She’ getting support for this.

    jebus help me, if McCain and his bitch win, I’m changing my first name.

  19. Sarah:

    *oops* I didn’t mean to make the whole last paragraph bold. Dunno what happened

  20. AtheistUnderMask:

    So, is Gibson REALLY getting slammed as a sexist?

    Question to the women on this blog: Do you think the constant cries of sexism is hurting the equality that women fought so hard to gain?

    Personally, it’s like she’s using the word as a way to escape criticism.

  21. Stardust:

    But mostly, I am sick and tired of hearing about her fucking kids!

    Sarah, me too! Yackity, yackity, yackity like all the PTA mom’s I hear talking in the aisles at the grocery stores. She can talk all day and night about her kids but when it comes to questions about the job she is applying for, she just goes into more condescending talk about feelings and fluffy rhetoric she uses to dance around to avoid saying “I dunno”.

    And I’m also sick of hearing about the one with with Down’s Syndrom, whom she named Trig.

    And who is caring for this child? Hubby works, kids go to school, and Downs kids need constant, ongoing care. She is trying to paint herself as some sort of super mom. A super mom is one who does a job for eight hours, comes home to have dinner with the family, takes care of the household (hopefully with the husband’s or significant other’s help) and juggles both worlds every single day. Maybe in Alaska where there are less people than one district in the state of Illinois so she can work eight hours a day? But VP is going to be much more than a full-time job. She will have to be away from her family for long periods of time. And according to her Babble that is not cool with her god. That point aside, she is painting herself as something she is not…the all-American mom…she is just another lying, and extremely ignorant politician.

  22. Stardust:

    Question to the women on this blog: Do you think the constant cries of sexism is hurting the equality that women fought so hard to gain?

    I am hoping that intelligent women and men will realize that this questioning of Palin is not sexism at all, but the world trying to find out what this candidate KNOWS about international affairs, national and international economics, national security, disaster relief on a massive scale, etc. So far she has not had any answers except to relate “I am commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard” and vague answers like that.

    Charlie Gibson didn’t seem sexist to me at all, but she came across as not knowing what a person in the second highest office in the land should know. That is not sexist, that is fact even if she was a man,

  23. AtheistUnderMask:

    I’m going to go ahead and apologize for my question. I didn’t refresh the page, and therefore missed Sarah’s comment. The timing is purely coincidental.

    And I agree with you Stardust. I know it’s not sexist, but the people who are going to vote for McCain don’t see it that way, and unfortunately this is going to render the term meaningless so that when a real act of sexism DOES occur, people will ignore it. It’s like how people have gotten so used to car alarms going off without anyone actually attempting to steal the car so that when someone actually IS trying to steal a car, people think it’s just another alarm going off because someone walked by it.

  24. Eve:

    AUM: Question to the women on this blog: Do you think the constant cries of sexism is hurting the equality that women fought so hard to gain?

    Yes. Sexism happens and frequently. But reacting with cries of “sexism!” every time we’re pushed hard on something just makes us look like professional victims or martyrs. Personally, I’ve never won an argument or gotten what I wanted by playing the sexism card, but that’s just me.

    Politics is a down-dirty-ugly-get-your-hands-mucked-up-to-the-elbow-side-by-side-with-people-you-normally-wouldn’t-even-look-at business. People, not just women, have to grow the fuck up in respect to it. It’s never going to be Marquess of Queensbury Boxing Etiquette; it’s always going to be stab-you-in-the-back-if-you-turn-it street fighting. No woman who has ever broken the glass ceiling, here or elsewhere in the world, did it by crying sexism every time she met an obstacle. She did it by just focusing on her goals and breaking straight through the goddamn ceiling.

    That doesn’t mean that examples of sexism should not be exposed and dealt with when they occur; blogs like I Blame the Patriarchy, for example, should continue to exist even if they devolve into places for women to vent (hmm, kind of like GifS for atheists). But jumping into the ring of politics and starting swinging only to claim that your opponent is being sexist when he swings back at you like any other boxer makes you look like a spoiled brat (kind of like those special concessions Hillary got when it became obvious she would lose the nomination – what the hell is she, five, that everyone had to make sure her feelings were taken into consideration?).

    And given all the indications we’re starting to see of Republican voter, election, and campaign fraud, I say the McPalin ticket better be ready to take the heat. If they’re willing to lie, cheat, steal, and hornswoggle the election process, they better not whine when even his POW experiences are used against them.

    AUM: Personally, it’s like she’s using the word as a way to escape criticism.

    Ya think?! ;-)

  25. Stardust:

    I know it’s not sexist, but the people who are going to vote for McCain don’t see it that way, and unfortunately this is going to render the term meaningless so that when a real act of sexism DOES occur, people will ignore it.

    AUM, I see what you are saying now, so in that respect, yes. When a real act of sexism does occur people may just ignore it. And as far as Palin is concerned the only reason the sexism card is being played at all is because she is ignorant on so many things.

    I am watching Keith Olbermann right now and he is calling her on the carpet for everything she has said or refused to address and things she is totally ignorant about. Olbermann is great at what he does.

  26. fritzy:

    This woman is fucking insane!

    BTW–what, beyond matters of semantics, is really the difference between saying “God is on our side” and “We are on God’s side?”

  27. Stardust:

    BTW–what, beyond matters of semantics, is really the difference between saying “God is on our side” and “We are on God’s side?”

    There is no difference because it’s all in the mind of the delusional. This “side” is whatever stance the god believer takes and then they adjust what they want to believe their imaginary friend wants. Then when they become confused by questions they state they don’t really know what their god thinks, and then say they can’t speak for their god. They make it up as they go. It is this way that politics and religion are nearly identical in rhetoric.

  28. fritzy:

    The last thing this country needs is another person in the oval office that is clearly in over their heads

  29. Stardust:

    Have ya’ll seen this?

    Sarah Palin And Republican Hypocrisy

  30. ChuckA:

    Yes, Star; that’s another clip I was thinking of linking to.
    Jon’s always so…ummm…”Right On!” hilarious.
    That ultra-fuckhead neocon, Rove…AARGH!…and what an opportunistic sleeze-bag Morris is.
    [Memories always pop up, for me, of his sleazy, and momentarily distracting, sexual shenanigans in the heat of the '96 Clinton campaign.]
    Speaking of sexism…
    Am I the only one who notices that the Repigs, in comparison with the Dems, seem to ESPECIALLY love those, invariably blonde, constantly smiling, “Stepford Wife” style female reps? You probably know the names…Pfotenhauer, Perino, etc…even Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson(?). Like, no matter what is being discussed, they have a constant, frozen-like, ditsy smile on their face.
    Palin’s not blonde(?), BUT…yada, yada.

  31. Eve:

    ^ Because, ChuckA, that’s what a Real Woman (TM) is like, Donna Reed/Doris Day clones (no offense to the real Donna Reed and Doris Day) who always put their men and families first – unless they have a really good excuse not to, like doG’s Call in Palin’s case. They may have gone to university all right, but always knowing that their real function in life was to get married and have kids.

    And there’s nothing wrong with that; my own mother is a college graduate who chose to be a stay-at-home mom, and I’m very grateful for her decision. It’s when that track gets touted as not only the best but also the truest goal for all women that it becomes a trap. My mom has confessed that if she got to do her life over again, she would at least stay single longer after she graduated (I’m now on a mission to show her that there’s no reason she can’t do now many of the things she “put off” to marry and start a family). It was expected then that even though a woman was a professional and working, that her main drive remained “getting” a man and “settling down.”

    I guess my principal beef with sexism, particularly the Republican kind, is that it chokes diversity and places on a pedestal conformity to an ideal – “Stepford Wife” is still, what, 30 years now since the original novel came out? the best description. And in the end I really don’t think the Republicans intend Palin to have any real power at all; in fact, I have a funny feeling that either they’re already throwing her under the bus (the Gibson interview) or they’re going to real soon. Maybe she’s a bright, shiny thing being dangled in front of everyone’s nose to keep them from focussing on McCain – and the Republicans’ push to co-opt the elections as part of their takeover of as many levels of government as they can.

    Stay vigilant, my friends…

  32. Orzo:

    AUM: as we all should know, “sexism” is choosing, or rejecting, someone based solely on their gender. I don’t know how everyone out there is using the term. It’s just as sexist to say “boo hoo you’re picking on me cuz I’m a girl” as it is to say “you can’t hack it cuz you’re a girl”. ( I think SP can’t hack it because she’s freaking delusional, but that’s my opinion as an atheist. ) If she’s only meant to be decorative, and so in a way set up to fail, then that definitely hurts women.

    I think they could have done better.

    And thanks to whomever restored the preview function…