Sending the wrong message
15 April 2009 by StardustThese Answers in Genesis people really piss me off. In this very brief video the message they are conveying is that if you don’t have God, just go ahead and shoot people! And a KID no less! Unfuckingbelievable! No wonder we have so many yahoos going around shooting people when their god never shows up! It’s what they are taught. This video is directly from their site.
15 April 2009, on 2:02 pm
Idiots like this give us responsible gun owners a bad name. Hell, they give everything a bad name.
15 April 2009, on 2:19 pm
AUM and it’s always the loonie Xians who are going berserk with them.
15 April 2009, on 2:26 pm
“If you don’t matter to God, you don’t matter to anyone.”
What a stupid, thoughtless, totally wrong thing to say! Imagine a person of faith, who is in the midst of a faith crisis, and possibly feeling suicidal hearing that. Non-believers don’t care if someone says they don’t matter to god. But a person of faith in crisis, might interpret his situation as his god not caring.
If this ad is aimed at atheists, it’s a fail. If it’s aimed at believers with strength of faith, it’s moot. If it’s aimed at believers with doubt, it’s a bigger fail.
15 April 2009, on 2:34 pm
Karen, I agree. What a horrible message to tell those who are feeling “lost” or not feeling any god at all. Totally careless, totally wrong. And it paints the picture that those who go around shooting people are non-believers when in fact, there have been more people killing because of that belief, or the struggle to keep believing. Of course, they will leave that part out and ignore it, choosing instead to take the easy way out and just blame the atheists for the problems people are having reconciling the absurdities they are taught.
15 April 2009, on 11:41 pm
This is a perfect example of , blind, totally irrational thinking gone amok. It shows a complete lack of awareness of a host of issues; not the least of which is the totally insane and contradictory inaneness of the Genesis mythology, and for that matter, all the rest of the Bible’s bullshit; which we’re all so aware of.
There are WAY too many things wrong with that Site to even BEGIN to waste much time commenting on.
Actually, that particular violence promoting video relates directly to Star’s more recent “Creationist Murders Student” Post.
IMO, that video, and what the Site is promoting in its outright ignorant and insidious lies and provable falsehoods RE morality, etc., should be brought to the attention of the authorities for its obviously blatant suggestion of violence…not just to atheists…but to anyone who doesn’t subscribe to the, utterly mindless, Fundamentalist Xtian notion of a god.
Absolutely outrageous!
16 April 2009, on 2:37 am
Off-topic (sort of), but I am reminded of this cartoon from AIG (via Creationist Idiocy).
I assume that it’s a criticism of theistic evolution, saying that the notion that “God guided evolution throughout the billions of years of life’s history” conflicts with the notion of a loving god. While I agree with that, I also know that Young Earth Creationism conflicts with the evidence for evolution, so ironically the cartoon presents a strong argument for atheistic evolution. Is that another example of sending the “wrong” message or what?
16 April 2009, on 12:19 pm
Hello!
This will be my one and only comment. If all you folks want to make a big difference, ( other than arguing over the net)
sponser a youngster that wants to go to the Free Thinkers summer camp where they teach science and the evolving world.
We must go to the youth if there can be any change.because there are the minds that are not shut but eager to learn.
The only thing that does not evolve is religion. Another interesting point from The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins is that
the most intelligent people in this world do not believe in any gods. Education is of the upper most importance to see the fallacies
in religions.disappear.
Thank you, Jack
16 April 2009, on 1:19 pm
Thank you, Jack. That is an excellent thing to be involved in. It’s a shame though that the kids who really need Freethinkers summer camp are under the control and oppression of their religious parents and pastors.
17 April 2009, on 1:12 am
From the web site we read:
Genesis tells us that we are created in God’s image. We matter to God—we are fearfully and wonderfully made. We were not created through millions of years of violence and death, as evolutionists believe; God did not create us to be violent! Therefore, when we commit acts of violence and evil toward our fellow man, God is grieved. And God has been grieved by these recent acts of violence in the headlines.
The Creator holds each person accountable for their sinful deeds. But God chose to send His perfect Son to the Cross to pay the penalty for our sin—our failure to obey Him. He did that for us.
These xians seem to have forgotten that one of the sons of the very first man their god created killed his very own brother (according to their mythology). So within the first generation of humans created in “god’s image” we have murder perpetrated for no other reason than that the brother was jealous of his brother’s offering to god. They weren’t fighting over food, or property, or a woman, or money. No. They were fighting over religion. Not even 50 years from creation (I’m estimating) and we see brothers fighting over religion. How impressive! This example of humanity so “lovingly” created by this “superior” creator is somehow better than the examples evolution supplies? How? At least with Evolution the killing makes some sense in that it is a struggle for survival.
It’s such a ludicrous suggestion that creationism somehow has an effect of persuading humans to be non-violent, especially given the “historical” record of the Bible these xians read literally. And the message that someone else will pay the penalty for these acts of violence (namely this Jesus character) is suppose to act as a preventive measure? How? Seems like a “get out of jail free” card to me.
17 April 2009, on 1:22 am
Actually, they are right. Just look at the Hebrew Testament: Gawd didn’t care about Canannites. Gawd didn’t care about the Egyptians. Gawd really didn’t care about the Soddomites or the Gammorhians. At one point, Gawd didn’t care about anyone but Noah, his family and two of every species that happened to live in Noah’s back yard.
If, in any given situation, Gawd didn’t do away with everyone he didn’t care about, he gave free reign for his choosen people (whom presumably he did care about) to dispatch of the men and make sex-slaves of the virgins.
More proof needed? Look at the Christian Testament. In Luke, Jesus commands his apostles to bring the non-believers to him and kill them in front of him. And according to Revelation, Gawd will slowly and painfully punish those he doesn’t care about in a thousand year tribulation, before sending them all off to hell for eternity–even those amongst his “chosen people” who faithfully revered him, but negelected to also kiss the sandals of his Gawd-son.
This ad appears to be (unintentionally and rather ironically) spot-on.
17 April 2009, on 10:22 am
These xians seem to have forgotten that one of the sons of the very first man their god created killed his very own brother (according to their mythology).
And Lynda, these xians also seem to have forgotten that their whole religion started with violence…a war in heaven and warring between God and the Satan, and how does this god himself choose to “save” his creations? With more violence! He impregnates a virgin and creates a son for himself (and is really himself too) to be tortured and murdered in the most hideous way and brings him back as a zombie to walk around showing everyone his wounds. Then this same zombie is supposed to come again for the great battle at the end of times. How can they just ignore violence like that of their own religion? Because, they make their religion to however they want it to be. Xianity is a death cult.